Deontay Wilder...top ten victories

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s strange, People were fine with brezeale fighting AJ, but when he signed to fight wilder he became a bum
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn't know that!
    Was it because Joshua had only had 16 pro fights and making a first defence against undefeated Breazeale and because Wilder had had over 40 fights and was making his 9th defence I think?
     
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  3. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difference is, Breazeale isn't even a Top 5 AJ win.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Arguably not top ten. I admit you can bump the last two, but Wallin beat Breazele, so the highest you can rank him is 9

    WladKlit
    Parker
    Povetkin
    Ruiz
    Whyte
    Martin
    Pulev
    Wallin
    Takam
    Helenius
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You are being very generous to Charles Martin here
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    The guy won a belt, and has a victory over Glazkov, who was undefeated at the time. I am not saying he was ever a first-tier guy, but he has his little piece of history.
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    On paper I guess

    I just think having him as AJ's 6th best win is generous
     
  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’d say he’s Whyte level. Both pretty poor.

    Also to note, this was a grudge match. Like AJ Whyte was too.
     
  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What does that matter? If a fighter is classed as good enough to defend against, whether it’s his first or last defence doesn’t matter.

    wilder defended against molina as his first defence, AJ did it as a later defence…no probs.
     
  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte beat way better fighters than Breazeale.
     
  11. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My point was if brezeale is good enough for AJ to defend against, why couldn't wilder? For him it was a grudge fight too

    Wlad got ko’d by worse fighters too lol
     
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  12. MaccaveliMacc

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    Molina was a joke of the defense for both of them. AJ however took it on short notice as his Wlad fight fell through cause Klitschko got injured.
     
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  13. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You changed it from Wlad to Whyte, whose crap
     
  14. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you give AJ a pass for everything lol
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn't say it mattered
    I asked you why it was, and asked if what I wrote was a possibility?

    I think Molina was considered a straight forward easy defence for both and a bit of a gimme for either especially with it being Wilders 34th fight to Joshua's 18th
    I certainly don't think it mattered for Joshua having only had 17 fights at the time that was agreed and knowing it was happening because the Wladimir fight couldn't be agreed.
    The fight with Molina happened for Joshua because the Wladimir fight couldn't be finalised at that time

    I think amount of fights possibly does factor into people's opinions. Especially if comparing who did what when.

    The critics you were talking about. Could it be that Joshua was mixing at a similar and higher level earlier in his career?