If Wilder KO's Usyk, is he one of the greatest heavyweights of all time?

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  1. Yes, ATG

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  2. No, lucky punch/fix

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  3. Maybe

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "In his 50th pro fight ... his 14th with the heavyweight title on the line ... and with more than 100,000 people in attendance ...

    Deontay Wilder will knock down and stop the undefeated World Heavyweight Champion and Pound-for-Pound king Oleksandr Usyk and become the second-oldest man to win the heavyweight title." - Dubblechin
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No.
     
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  3. BustedSaint

    BustedSaint Country Member Full Member

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    Usyk too much I suspect.
     
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  4. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It'll probably be a fixed fight. A once popular American heavyweight boxing superstar vs the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion.

    Sounds like Paul vs AJ, but a more realistic version. If it's broadcasted by Netflix, both parties will receive at least $100M paycheck. Good business for everyone, everybody will get rich.
     
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  5. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't see Wilder winning this even in my dreams, not even with a lucky punch.
     
  6. TipNom

    TipNom Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No but it would give a MASSIVE boost to his legacy. Wilder seems to be washed, but Usyk is 39 himself and very inactive. Not as past it as Wilder is but still definitely past his best.
    Still, if Wilder managed a win he'd go from arguably not really having a place in any heavyweight top 40, to having to be ranked over guys like Vitali and Bowe. Still not top 10 level though.
     
  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    he were to achieve that feat, he will have beat the man who beat the man.

    Should the fight actually happen, then if Wilder needed any motivation to at least throw that bomb, that will be the occasion, as he sure as hell is not out boxing Usyk, one lucky punch however unlikely it is of landing, would be a damned good finale to hang his gloves up on.
     
  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    This forum would turn to lava.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Wilder would retire a legend and I would quite the sport for a minute or two. Wilder´s name would forever haunt me.
     
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  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. But there's a big gap between this making him an ATG and claiming he won by lucky punch/fix. Every boxer can lose/win on every given night. If Wilder beats Usyk, fair play to him, but he probably still wouldn'tbe rated higher than Usyk himself, Fury and possibly AJ.
     
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  11. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    In fairness Wilder would somehow be the lineal champion and that is a big deal, as if that will happen though.
     
  12. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is Leon Spinks one of the greatest of all time? Is Hasim Rahman one of the greatest of all time? Is Michael Moorer one of the greatest of all time? Is James Douglas one of the greatest of all time?

    1 win does not make you a great fighter. Imo, the most important part of what makes a fighter great is longevity at the top. To reach number 1 and still have the motivation and hunger to keep going, is the thing that sets a great fighter and a good fighter apart. Wilder has never been the number 1 fighter at heavyweight, and even with a win over Usyk, he still wouldn't be the number 1.
     
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    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    No, but not because it is a lucky punch or fix.It is because the rest of his work is so bad that he will finish a notch about Corrie Sanders and a notch below Haseem Rahmen, two other guys who caught lightening in a bottle.

    But there is a vanishingly small chance of this happening anyway. Wilder's power is mostly an illusion of fighting cans, and whatever he had is now mostly gone. Usyk has been hit by much harder than Wilder is going to bring.
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I don't think any punch Wilder throws is lucky because he relies so heavily on it. But no he wouldn't be an ATG. His best win is still Ortiz ffs :ohno