Mike Tyson had a better career than Larry Holmes.

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  1. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You didn't produce any evidence that Lederman said he should have been disqualified in the first place. So after you've done that, we can talk.
     
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    In Holmes fights with Snipes and Shavers he got knocked down and almost knocked out by Shaver in their second fight. Did he struggle?
     
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    Is you ability to understand boxing limited only to looking a boxingrec?
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Take a look at how many cruiserweight sized guys Holmes was beating compared to Wlad.
     
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    He wasn't knocked down 3 times where he looked as vulnerable.

    And he'd never been stopped like Wlad had.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

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    Actually, I won't wait for Dino, cause he knows he's talking nonsense and is hoping people won't fact check his BS.

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    Harold Lederman was absolutely disgusted with Wlad holding, but didn't say anything about disqualification, he only talked about the point deduction.

    Larry Merchant disagreed entirely saying he seen guys hold a lot more without the deduction.

    George Foreman said Wlad holds a lot but he likes it as there is a skill in it and he should continue doing that.

    All 3 guys agreed Peter should have had point deducted for hitting in the back of the head.

    Here you go, there's Dino for you. Again, a liar & a hater.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hold on, YOU are accusing me of getting my knowledge from Boxrec?

    Ha!

    Hilarious.
     
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    And?

    That is relevant how?

    That's not the argument is it?

    The argument, is whether or not Wlad fought MUCH HARDER opposition.

    And he clearly did not.

    And Wlad fighting low level SHW's and B level southpaws doesn't make it so.

    Again, they fought comparable opposition.
     
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    If you can't distinguish between a fighter's record and their actual technical ability, then BoxRec is clearly where your analysis starts and ends.
     
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    None of them said Peter should be DQ'd for fouls.
    Foreman never said he shouldn't be disqualified.
    This is post of pure unadulterated lies.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You questioning other people's knowledge is laughable.


    Wlad was an ATG HW, and a SHW with great skills and huge power.

    Yet you want me to believe that his opposition was MUCH HARDER, on the grounds that he fought SHW's and southpaws, like Austin, Thompson, Chagaev and Ibragimov etc?

    No.

    That is a joke of an argument.


    You've also claimed that Wlad holds a GREAT win over Haye, and that it was far greater than Larry's win over Witherspoon.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    No offense, but you’re sounding a little bit like a guy who never put the gloves on.

    It’s no coincidence that Mormeck looked like he shouldn’t have even been in the ring with Wlad.
     
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    So just like Lederman didn't say Wlad should be DQed, right? LOL. You're a liar and a hater.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    When it gets to the stage where you're both questioning my knowledge, you really are at the end of the road, with nothing left to post.

    And you're trying to start an argument, where nobody has even argued against what you've said.


    Now I have admitted that they were some SHW's who I omitted.

    So come and admit that you've both clearly exaggerated your opinions.


    Both Wlad and Larry were great HW's.

    But nobody can claim that Wlad fought MUCH HARDER opposition.