Larry Holmes: Mike Tyson wouldn't thrive in the classic era.

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  1. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Douglas also had many turmoils in his personal life (his mom died and his baby momma was in the hospital with a serious kidney failure), plus he fought sick on antibiotics. He still whooped that ass!
     
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    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Completely different situations.
    Tyson had already achieved everything: he had fame and money. His motivation was not as high anymore. He also probably underestimated Douglas a bit.
    Douglas had not achieved anything yet. Also, he had promised his mother (on her death bed) that he'd win the belt for her. So, unlike Tyson, he was more motivated than ever. And trained harder than ever. Douglas was very talented, but he never gave it his all up until that point.
     
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    It really isn't a good look for Holmes to continually denigrate Tyson. It reminds me of Mayweather continually denigrating Ali.
     
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    So, Buster was also better than Tyson in a sense, that Mike got discouraged by turmoils and Buster was motivated by them. That's why he whooped that ass. The fights are won not only in a ring.
     
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    What part of "completely different situations" didn't you understand ?!????
    Tyson had already achieved everything, Douglas had not.
    Tyson didn't get discouraged, he got distracted by them, his mind wasn't focused on boxing as the main priority anymore.
     
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    It's not a competely different situation, you're just looking for excuses. Tyson showed he was mentally fragile, which is a key part of boxing.
     
  7. White Bomber

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    No he did not. He just showed that the problems he had in his personal life distracted him from focusing on boxing.
     
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    Yes, so he turned out to be weaker mentally than a lot of fighters who had problems in their lives but delivered anyway.
     
  9. NoNeck

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    He was better, in a sense, on that night. Overall, the first part of Tyson's career was characterized by unreal discipline, at least during camp, whereas Douglas' career career was largely characterized by thr opposite.

    Tyson also won plenty fights while personal turmoils existed in his life.
     
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    Douglas was at the right man at the right time with the right motivation vs a dis interested, lazy, lack of focus, undertrained Champ, no excuses , Douglas won fair and square but still against that lethargic Tyson he was almost counted out on his very best night ever.

    The point is , the real Douglas quit vs Tucker and the real Douglas quit vs Holyfield..............Douglas could never ever duplicate his form in Tokyo, before or after, fact, because the real Douglas was a absolute flash in the pan.
     
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    Loving the cope here lmao.

    Wow, Tyson was demotivated before the match? Big deal man, Buster’s mom died.

    Buster owned Tyson. Simple as that.
     
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    “No excuses” yet the entire post is an excuse lmao.
     
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    Didn't Douglas behave similarly to Tyson throughout his career? Wasn't he Tokyo Tyson in his next fight? Or maybe the 80s really had the wrong champion and Buster should have hurt Holmes, not Mike :) But then what's Buster's excuse?