Vasyl Lomachenko vs Shakur Stevenson: Who wins?

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Who wins

  1. Vasyl Lomachenko

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  2. Shakur Stevenson

    58 vote(s)
    35.2%
  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Oh **** old post lol
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Tank ducked Loma for 5 years
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's not cope. Loma is way better than that ugly goblin faced risk averse weight bully

    If it's about what you did come back and prove me wrong when he wins three belts in what would be at least his 7th weight class vs way bigger and longer guys in their backyards or on the road who weigh 10-20lbs more than him and have 6'' longer reaches and gets robbed blind of becoming undisputed when old and past his prime vs a 20lb heavier 6'' longer reach way way bigger P4P level guy.

    You can't even name one time he's ever fought anyone like that let alone many times

    Why does he need a rehydration clause vs Haney when he's way bigger than Loma with a 3'' longer reach and the fight would be in the US with home refs and judges where he will receive a fair shake? Explain that one to me? Why is he ducking Haney when he's in his prime and he's much bigger than Loma? Hmm.. clown

    He's too scared to fight domestic level Conor Benn without one

    Something wrong with you clowns
     
  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    not irrelevant, doe
     
  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Loma is done at this point a few years ago I got Loma now I doubt it
     
  6. Blaxx

    Blaxx Active Member banned Full Member

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    Shakur would beat the dog **** out of Loma and we would all say well done to Loma, he dared to be great, fighting bigger men etc etc
     
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  7. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    agree 10/10...i have posts all over here saying that if Loma were ever gonna beat Stevenson, he needed to do it that very minute. Stevenson will fight and probably get a belt at middle before he's done.
     
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  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Who hasn't Wahid ducked? Too many fighters to even be named. The fact of the matter is that Tank and his team came to Loma with a serious offer for a unification fight and Loma DENIED the offer(aka the biggest fight of his career) and retired, this while being the IBF Lightweight champion of the world.

    You think someone like Shakur would ever duck the biggest fight of his life, especially with an easy W like Davis?
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Shakur

    Interviewer: ''You saw Loma recently, how was that?''

    Shakur: ''Yeah I seen him. He looked small. That's what I really was thinking. He's tiny for 135, I just moved up and I felt way bigger than Lomachenko''

    Interviewer: ''He's like a natural featherweight''

    Shakur: ''I think he should go back down. I think he'd be a lot better at 130''

    "Devin is too big. Like, I think the size ... don't get me wrong, Lomachenko can fight. Devin is way out of his weight class. He's going to make 35 and then shoot up to 150 or 160 (actually 160) nive times out of 10, and Lomachenko is going to be 137 or 138, so it's just not even fair to me."

    “I think he [Devin Haney] smokes Lomachenko.


    “I didn’t like the way he looked against Ortiz. I saw him in the gym two or three weeks ago, he looked like a 126lb fighter, he doesn’t look like a 135lb fighter.

    Checkmate

    "I'm not no idiot. I don't [want to fight]... some [of] these guys that's way bigger than me".

    --Shakur Stevenson

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    And FTR

    'Shakur Stevenson has openly credited Vasiliy Lomachenko for helping him grow as a fighter, specifically highlighting what he learned during their training sessions early in his career.
    • Valuable Sparring Lessons: In 2017, Stevenson, shortly after becoming an Olympian, stated, "Lomachenko taught me a lot during training camp. I learned a lot of things. I picked up on little defensive [aspects]".
    • High-Level Experience: Stevenson has mentioned that sparring elite fighters like Lomachenko early on was a massive learning experience, even if he felt it made other fighters want to avoid him later due to his skill level.
    • Respect for the "Matador": Despite wanting to fight him, Stevenson has shown deep respect for Lomachenko’s abilities, often praising him as a high-level opponent.
    • High-Level Skill Assessment: Later in his career, while scouting for potential matchups, Stevenson pointed to his experience with Loma when analyzing what it takes to beat top-tier competition.
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  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember a little while back someone else on some other thread said Josh Taylor would've beaten Shakur Stevenson at 140

    Like have some respect for the sport of boxing
     
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  11. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Conor Benn is a middleweight

    This whole 7 weight class gimmick for Lomachenko thing is getting old and ridiculous

    He won at 3 weight divisions

    Maybe he would've at more had he started earlier

    Stevenson will likely win titles at 47 and 54 a good chance also one day
     
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He kind of ducked Shakur too to fight George Kambosos
     
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  14. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    by that time it was too late. there was a minute there that they could have fought and nobody would have lost much face. when loma was peaking and shakur was still a boy. past that magical mystical ****ing moment, too big a size difference.
     
  15. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As good as Loma was, he was mostly fighting dudes way bigger than he. A couple of his wins and close losses are ageing like milk.
     
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