Oleksandr Usyk is the only Eastern European fighter to ever beat boxing.

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  1. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is the only EE fighter in history to beat the game. There's been great EE fighters but he is the only boxer to dominate beyond all recognition. Bivol, potentially still could. There's been greats from that part of the world but they've all had hiccups. The Klitsckos dominated but have parts of their careers that detractors can point to. Vitali had the Byrd fight, to the very lesser extent the Lewis fight. Wlad had a few ( Brewster, Sanders etc ). Kostya Tszyu had Philips and Hatton , Golovkin and Beterbiev, promotional and legal issues and were too old by the time their most significant opponents met them in the ring. Loma also lost fights and made incorrect career decisions.
    Very few fighters in history get it right and Usyk is the ONLY EE boxer in history to do everything right in the amateurs and pros.
     
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  2. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlads legacy is on a totally different level then Usyks. He is the model for what a modern champion should be. Fights everyone beats them easily rinses and then repeats.

    Usyk did not do everything right in the pros hes the perfect example of what a champ should not be. Usyk is destroying HW boxing barely wins his fights and barely fights anyone.
     
  3. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What?!
    Wlad got KO’d, dropped in multiple fights and fought in one of the weakest eras of heavyweight boxing.

    While Usyk is undefeated and beat 2 boxers that beat Wlad.

    Usyk is above Wlad in every way.
     
  4. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like them both, but let me know once Usyk has 20+ title defenses.
     
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  5. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's delusional.
     
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  6. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely correct.
     
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  7. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although Wlad’s title defenses looks good on paper, it was against weak opponents.

    Usyk beating 2 guys (2 times each) that beat Wlad trumps Wlad’s title defenses.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Lol! He didn't fight the second best heavy in the era...his own brother. And YES, it matters, because they divided the era, avenging each other with Sanders and Byrd.

    Uysk is three-time, two division undisputed.

    Really, really comically bad post, mate.
     
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  9. Cyrion

    Cyrion Active Member Full Member

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    BWHAHAHAHA!!!

    Dude, I'm legit crying from laughter right now. This might be the funniest and most delusional post of all-time. Well done, son! Well done!
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad could have avoided those losses by not fighting past his prime so hardly relevant
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense. Wlad beat vastly better opponents than his brother did not remotely close. You can't divide an era when one guy is beating far better opponents.

    By that logic Usyk is dividing the current era with Wardley, Itauma, Kabayel etc
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being "past your prime" (highly subjective and unquantifiable) doesn't erase the negative ramifications of losses. Beating two champs who beat Wlad (perhaps the two best guys Wlad ever faced) and doing so four times in total, counts for a huge amount.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was always the question of "which Klitschko would win?", from their debuts to Vitali's retirement. Wlad was ranked No.1 after Vitali retired but when Vitali came back, consensus was probably that he'd beat Wlad. So it was always uncertain whether Wlad was actually No.1, at least H2H.

    Usyk has dominated all of his main rivals since moving up (Joshua, Fury, Dubois) so there's no comparison.
     
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  14. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    As a rabid American nationalist I came here to say that Usyk is the best heavy Eurofag imo, closely followed by Vitali. If one includes the UK in Europe then LL still takes it as Lord High Baddass of Eurasia...except he's a Canuck, right?
     
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  15. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is better than Wlad and Wlad is better than Vitali.

    Usyk never gets destroyed by Sanders and Brewster like that. He doesn't get dropped all those times by Peter either. And he doesn't lose to Purrity.
    He could also beat Charr, one of Vitali's best opponents. And would beat Lewis too, a sloppier version of AJ with a worse chin.

    And of course Usyk didn't get outboxed by Fury even though that's the only asterisk in Wlad's favour because Wlad fought young Fury who was more difficult defensively but less dangerous (in that fight) offensively. It's hard to know what Usyk does against that younger Fury but it would probably be closer or Fury could steal it.

    As for Bivol, Tzsyu, Golovkin and Beteroids, they aren't Eastern Europeans(slavic), but Eurasians and a Chechen.
     
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