Wilder loses his **** while questioned about "cheating" claim

He needs to get back on the ayahuasca and mellow out again.

 

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I just saw on twitter Simon Jordan said after the cameras were off that Wilder was actually threatening to hit him.
Jordan was just doing his job the guy is like 60 years old and a cancer survivor. Wilder really is a POS.

 

He's someone who can only stand to be showered with praise. Awful personality. Completely incapable of being introspective. I remember when Scuba Scott had to say that he wasn't teaching him but just reminding him because Wilder's ego is so massive he knows everything already.

 

If Wilder knocked this guy out his bail would be paid before he even got to the station.

 

Fair play to Fury here taking the high road. That's not always easy to do when somebody is publicly slagging you off and trying to defame you with total BS

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Ssshhhhhh......I know.

Dubblechun has a long established history of ridiculing others who don't share his views. The mod on classic said a previous ban was the 2nd most positively received by other members in his entire near 2 decades on this site. He's a bully (in this forum, for all I know he's a lovely guy in person) and it's in my nature to seek out bullies and knock them off of their perch.

Whilst I of course agree with your post in general, in this specific case it's clear Wilder has always been a boxer with 0 technical ability, who had insane, off the charts, high twitch muscle fibre, resulting in him becoming arguably the hardest puncher in all of boxing history. As happens, that high twitch subsided as he entered his late 30's to the extent that the snap has completely gone from his punches and it's never coming back. Without it, he has nothing, and even a way past prime, 42 year old Chisora will clearly be too much for him.

Dubblechin likes to ridicule other posters. There are hints of that in the posts he makes predicting Wilder will beat Chisora, and I'm extremely confident he's wrong, so I wanted to raise the stakes and bring some mutual jeopardy into the scenario, hence my offer of a ban bet. When he refused, I made the post you quoted. I hope that makes sense.

 

Seriously, I hope Wilder takes a shelling. From what we know and see, a bad human.

Let that karma wrap all the way around.

Hopefully Fury #4 happens. Another KO incoming

 

Again pal, write less, read more….

your writing a load of irrelevant points and going off topic (kind of like wilder-you have something in common) I said clearly, I don’t buy his excuses,

what you might call defending is that I don’t ridicule and bully him into thinking what the world wants him to think.
I also accept certain undeniable facts you refuse to accept because your love/hate for deontay is too emotional.

1. Fury has cheated in the past, this is confirmed with his ban from boxing
2. He has links to kinehan and is possibly not able to enter USA due to this link, kinehan is wanted by the FBI for numerous crimes, involving CORRUPTION & FIXING boxing fights.

do you accept the above 2 points?
it’s not like wilder is claiming Jesus has cheated him, it’s fury, a compulsive liar, a proven cheat and one linked to corruption in boxing.
Or Do you think fury is such a saint that he would never re-cheat as it goes against his holy character?


So do you want to post a huge irrelevant text about spiked water or the excuses he made?

 

This is, in many ways, a bit generous... But still broadly right.

He was always limited technically, but was quick and powerful.
Quite how powerful is a little bit of an open question - he could genuinely belong in the conversation with the biggest punchers we've seen, but there are some reasonable arguments that he might not have been quite there (looking deadly against largely mediocre opponents, no granite on the CV, etc).

The other problem is that, whilst it's probably true that age has blunted him a bit... He's potentially looked more declined than he perhaps is purely because he's been fighting guys who were better than he ever beat, certainly in Fury and Parker's cases, and probably in Zhang's too.

That's not to say that he necessarily couldn't have proved more before he started to decline - but he spent his prime on mostly journeymen with a few gatekeepers thrown in...
The fact that his best win is an old Ortiz, himself realistically declined from an unknown level due to his own thin resume, just adds to the difficulty in knowing exactly how good Wilder ever truly was - or where his peak could've been if he'd been matched against much better guys at his peak.


I have always thought Chisora would've been stylistically difficult for him, and would certainly have been in his top 2 wins if he'd managed it (and quite likely top)...

Chisora appears to be more effective in his declined state than Wilder does in his, which suggests this should be very difficult indeed for Wilder - if he pulls it off, it's probably his greatest achievement given this, and props to him if he does.

 

Again, I’m not believing his excuses/reasons/explanations, so repeating and countering them is irrelevant.
Which is why I keep saying read more instead of writing more. I’ve been saying in the thread, he needs to provide the evidence or shut up now.

yes, I think fury was ridiculed too, because he was apparently a sore loser. But not to wilders level at all. Thankfully he hasn’t brought his stuff back up so people don’t ridicule him again.

do you really think you are holding wilder or fury accountable by calling them names on a forum?

 

I totally agree with you, and, always enjoy your posts. I also agree that Wilder is garbage. No skills, terrible ring IQ. My only worry for your post is you are putting all your faith in an even older, totally shop-worn version of Chisora. A guy at that stage of his career can literally lose to anybody. Just look at a guy like Dillyan Whyte. Honestly, the number of fighters that old that can lose to anyone far outnumbers the fighters who can still come up with a reasonable performance.