Wilder loses his **** while questioned about "cheating" claim

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This got tedious long ago, Ruff, and I'm done going round in circles. You seem to labouring under the misapprehension I don't believe Belly is capable of cheating or that I don't believe he's a cheat when I've never said such a thing or even implied it.

    I know he's a PED cheat. I know he's a POS too. And I know of his connection with that notorious gangster. I'm fully aware of all of that but I just don't believe any of The Dosser's excuses or anything that comes out of that imbecile's big mouth and I not going to explain why again when I've been doing so throughout the thread repeatedly.

    I never said I'm 100% certain Belly didn't cheat. Again, I just don't believe any of ACCUSATIONS hen levelled at him or his own trainer, and everyone and everything else he tried to blame his losses on or any of the countless absurd excuses and not without good reason either


    As said, yes because he has zero credibility and even less proof and there's only one person to blame for that. There's a reason why he has zero credibility and is widely considered a complete laughing stock and many of the people who consider him so dislike Belly

    He's had six years to provide some and we haven't seen a single instance of any because it's all complete nonsense

    If he brought forth some compelling evidence I'd revise my opinion but everyone with a semi-functioning brain knows he's lying through his teeth and he has nothing and we all know exactly why he's been doing it and so do you too
     
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  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ah so you do agree that it’s possible but improbable due to not actually seeing any evidence?

    We’ll done
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No. The particular accusations he levelled at Belly regarding the gloves, the commission and everyone else are not only utterly ridiculous but have been thoroughly debunked by the video footage, the commission, the head of the WBC, the gloves inspector or they are so far-fetched and ludicrous that only an absolute moron would take them remotely seriously and argue the might have some credence and plausibility.

    So that just leaves the gypsy curse, the broken arm, the greasy substance on Belly's body, having sex 2 hours before the fight, white supremacy, white privilege and all the rest of his excuses which don't need debunking because not a single person outside his cult believes any of them and rightfully so :lol::facepalm:

    How much evidence of his claims have we seen from The Dosser in six years to back up his claims again? Exactly
     
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  4. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So are you going back to saying fury 100% cant have cheated because his accuser, wilder is all over the place?

    A proven cheater, with an organised crime group who allegedly fix fights and were involved in these fights, you believe 100% without any doubt, cannot have cheated because the supposed victim hasn’t presented a case like a lawyer would?
     
  5. Wasteman

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    Standard bum squad antics lol
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s far from flattering. To be completely honest, I still feel Wilder was cheated out of that first fight. At least half the other refs in the world would have stopped it in the 12th, Fury looked comatose, in need of medical attention. Hindsight being what it is, it’s incredible he got back up, but for me that cross and hook ended the fight. I might make enemies, but that’s how I see it. He had a reason to ***** about that fight imo, suspicious activity.
     
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  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s your opinion, don’t let people bully you out of it. They generally try to.
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The guys clearly saying Fury isn't exactly trustworthy and has been a cheat

    It's the ridiculous claims by Wilder he is pushing back on

    Fury isn't above cheating definitely, but Egg weights and organising an opponents water to be spiked is just two accusations from a pool of delusion

    Imagine using Egg Weights on gloves, the guys hand would break before the opponents face

    Wilder is mental
     
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  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I haven’t discussed his reasons or theories though, I’ve been saying it’s not far fetched to think fury may have cheated.
     
  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On a side note, As far as drink spiking goes, that’s a pretty common accusation and concern.
    Fury himself has shared concerns with contaminated water and with gloves when fighting Wlad, is he a delusional idiot too?

    George Foreman also believed his water was spiked against Ali, is he a delusional idiot too?
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hasn't he agreed with that though? Like early on in to the disscussion
     
  12. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He’s been talking about his 100% certainty, without any doubt, that wilder is wrong about fury cheating.

    this means that he has 100% certainty that fury has not cheated.

    I have been saying that due to fury’s past and his connections, I’m not 100% either way and think it’s irresponsible to be so.
     
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Looks like we're reading it slightly differently
    It looks like he is saying that Fury wouldn't do any of the things he was accused of.. Mainly because of how daft and outrageous the claims were
    Not that Fury was squeeky clean
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Yes Fury is a delusional idiot too
    That was confirmed again after the Uysk fights

    Different levels of delusion though
    Wilder is off the chart

    That is a serious crime and yet he won't produce any evidence

    Guys broken
     
  15. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s a stupid concept.
    Because the accuser is behaving daft & outrageously, the defendant who has previous and is involved in a crime ring, must be completely innocent?

    I am referring to the accusation of cheating as a whole.