Ali was not the greatest Boxer ever. Mayweather was.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NoChin, Feb 4, 2024.


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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The whining about ducking and not fighting opponents earlier is bizarre given how many big fights don't happen or don't happen when they should.

    It's even more insane given that fighting once a year automatically precludes you from fighting lots of guys. Why even bother ducking when your fight schedule prevents you from fighting so many dangerous opponents.
     
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  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd lost JLC1. This entire thread is based on Floyds perfect record and JLC 1 ends the thread. I'm a Floyd fan. I think a Draw can be Argued for Maidana 1 but thats about it. Floyd did win everything else including both the JLC and Maidana rematches.

    Floyd is up there, for sure, but hes just not better than SRR, SRL, Ali, and a few others. The numbers of boxers that were better than him may very well be less than the fingers on two hands.
     
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  3. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    He beat a lot of great fighters. Even if he lost to JLC. He beat Maidana imo 7 rounds to 5. He lost the first 5 won the next 7.
     
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  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who was calling Ali the best boxer ever? Pretty sure Ray Robinson is the consensus best.
     
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  5. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    People say De La Hoya was shot when he fought him, when were they supposed to fight? Floyd was 11 years into his professional career. Oscar was 15. It's not like Floyd could have fought him in 2000 just for years in.

    Floyd retired for almost 2 years the fight that should have took place sooner for sure was against Pac. That would have been the biggest super fight ever as they were both in their primes. Just for their names in 2015 it still was. He definitely could have fought Cotto and Mosely earlier no question. Floyd beats both of those guys regardless.

    Anyway the great man is supposedly coming back after he fights Tyson. Bad move. But with so much money comp for grabs who can really blame him. He's probably pissed away most of it on cars and gambling.
     
    NoChin, Feb 20, 2026
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  6. Sks476

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    Floyd is definitely one of the best ever. He had many chances to take on greater opposition than would have massively enhanced his legacy. If Floyd had taken on all the top opposition available to him, his claim to being TBE would be a lot more warranted.
     
    Sks476, Feb 21, 2026
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  7. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    casual
     
    vargasfan1985, Feb 21, 2026
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  8. Rick’s Piano

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    perspectives like this is why we dont get the best vs the best/prime vs prime. we shouldnt be so harsh over losses.
     
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  9. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wish I could put up some gifs for this one
     
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  10. ThatOne

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    Arguing who is the greatest boxer is s mug's game but to say Mayweather is the greatest athlete to live is risble. Imagine him in a Superstars like competition competing against the likes of a Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, or Michael Jordan.
     
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  11. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    Imagine them competing against him. In boxing. In his prime.
     
    NoChin, Feb 21, 2026
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  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    you have wasted many keystrokes on this bull****. i will not.

    take note: yes. he was.

    that is all. carry on
     
    Salty Dog, Feb 21, 2026
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  13. ThatOne

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    Imagine him playing Michael Jordan one on one or trying to tackle Jim Brown or Bo Jackson in the open field. Those cats could run faster, jump higher, and lift more weight, even if you control for size. And i specifically mentioned Superstar like competition which includes a myriad of athletic events like running, weightlifting, jumping, and swimming.
     
    ThatOne, Feb 21, 2026
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  14. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    But they'd all get knocked the **** out.
     
    NoChin, Feb 21, 2026
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  15. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In a street fight Jim Brown and Bo Jackson simply grab him and end it. Little May is giving up six inches of height and 80 pounds.
     
    ThatOne, Feb 21, 2026
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