Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Ray Robinson's opposition, how would he have fared?

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  1. McCallumsJab

    McCallumsJab Member Full Member

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    I think he'd beat every single opponent, Maxim included. He'd win shut outs against nearly everyone much like he does in his era.

    Why would he have problems with 160lb pressure fighters? Fighters in that era didn't weight drain, so were essentially welterweights of today. The likes of Maidana, Alvarez, Cotto, Delahoya were all 165+ in the ring after rehydrating.

    Lamotta was probably smaller and weaker given he weighed 168 in his LHW fights with a higher bodyfat than those men. In contrast Alvarez rehydrates to 180+ when he fights at super middleweight.

    Mayweather regularly gave up 15-20lbs in the ring once opponents rehydrated. Delahoya, Alvarez, Corrales, Hatton, Cotto, Maidana, Castillo all had about 15-20lbs on him.

    The fact you have to engineer injuries to think of reasons he might lose says it all. He had a torn rotatator cuff in the first Castllo fight and still won against a great fighter. He's won with broken hands and has had hand injuries throughout his career but easily won with them.
     
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  2. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    So why didn't he fight Winky Wright and/or challenge one of the reigning Middleweight Champions of his own time? Why leave all that money on the table?
     
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    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Do you think Mayweather would beat Robinson at 147 or 160?
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think Mayweather definitely loses to a couple of them, even in one offs. Under Robi's schedule I'd expect him to have similar results in terms of top wins but potentially more losses along the way. I'm not entirely convinced he beats Armstrong, even at that point, nor do I think he beats LaMotta over 6 fights or Fullmer over 4. The Floyd who fought Maidana stands no chance against Basilio. Id also expect Floyd to struggle, or perhaps lose to both Joey's, Maxim and Giardello.

    Everyone else, he probably beats tho and winds up a top 10-15 atg.
     
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  5. McCallumsJab

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    Winky turned down the 54-45 split. Mayweather fought Alvarez, Delahoya, Cotto and Maidana who were bigger in the ring than anyone Robinson faced bar Maxim.
     
  6. McCallumsJab

    McCallumsJab Member Full Member

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    I favour Mayweather, although they are both pickem fights at both weights. Mayweather is a better boxer, with a better defence who makes less mistakes. Robinson is a bigger puncher and better combination thrower and taller. They have a similar reach but SRR is taller

    SRR is more filled out at 160, Mayweather is a gymrat who probably had the better stamina. 1 of SRRs excuses for losing was that he had to climb a couple of flights of stairs prior to a fight
     
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    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Thank you for your response. I was just curious.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    He wouldn't hold up under that schedule, neither physically nor mentally.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He wouldn’t be undefeated just given the volume of fights in a condensed time span
     
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I mean, if you put the best version of him against any 1 of Robinsons opponents, he'd have a good chance at winning. But fighting all the fighters Robinson fought on the schedule he fought them, I doubt he goes undefeated. Also, I do know that many of the middleweights would be tough. Would he go 5-1 vs Lamotta while giving up 10-15 pounds?
     
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  11. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He gave up more in a lot of his fights at WW and JMW
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Mayweather wouldn't fight Moore or Charles. Mayweather knew his limits. Robinsons manager tossed out the idea of a fight with Charles and he immediately shut that down. I don't think any lightweight turned welterweight in boxing history beats any serviceable version of Moore or Charles.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Did he ever come into the ring giving up alot more than 10-15 pounds? I know he started at light weight and as such, one can say he was a "blown up light weight". What I mean is on fight night, was he giving up greater than 10-15 pounds in the ring? Maybe I'm not remembering, but I can't think of a fight where he was 135 on fight night fighting at welterweight or JMW.
     
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    Against Gatti, against Oscar, against Maidana, and against Canelo I believe @NoNeck knows all the stats by heart
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I'm not going to be researching weights, but ten pounds or more is significant for guys that size.

    Of those not mentioned, Corrales was maybe 147-149 and Floyd was maybe a couple pounds over 135. Hatton was a big drainer who fought maybe slightly under 160. Castillo would enter the ring at junior middle. Baldomir was pretty suspect, but I don't know of any specifics.

    Floyd's range of in ring weight was mid to high 130s earlier in his career and high 140s to very low 150s later in his career. I think he only weighed in at 154 once and was significantly under for all other fights.