Which 1930s heavyweight is second to Joe Louis?

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This is a question I’ve thought about often, but I’ve never really come up with an answer I’m satisfied with. Including only fights, which took place in the 1930s who was the second best heavyweight of the decade behind the Brown Bomber, Joe Louis?

    There are a good number of men with relatively similar resumes, achievements, and in some cases championship reigns. While I do think that Schmeling may have beaten them all I have never been able to really separate them out.

    What say you?
     
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  2. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    here is an EBU 1939 World's Ratings.

    it is the end of the Decade, but most of the Fighters Rated have been around at least a few years prior.

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  3. Fergy

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  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Braddock or John Henry Lewis. I would put Tommy Farr 4th.
     
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  5. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This is very interesting, not only for the heavyweights, but for the other classes as well. I haven’t even heard of the heavyweight from New Zealand. Not that I’m an expert on 1930s boxing but I’ve heard of most of the good guys.

    I think that one of the things that makes the 1930s so difficult is that almost all of the heavies including Louis we’re only very good or great for part of the decade. No one really was top-notch throughout the decade. Thank you very much for posting this.
     
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  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I lean that way myself. I just have no conviction about it.
     
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  7. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    very interesting choices. You have Braddock, the Cinderella Man, given the nickname for his lack of success before he won the belt and two guys who were never champion. I’d love to know your reasoning for these choices
     
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  8. Fergy

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    I know what you mean.
    I can't really place anyone above those two guy's (apart from Louis obviously) in that era .
    I find it hard to separate them tbh.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Schmeling by a whisker over Baer. The likes of Lewis and Braddock aren't remotely in the running.
     
  10. mattdonnellon

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    My take, only for fights in the decade;
    1 Louis
    2 Schmeling
    3 Sharkey
    4 Carnera
    5 M.Baer
    6 Loughran
    7 Schaaf
    8 Stribling
    9 Hamas
    10 Braddock
    11 Pastor
    12 Uzcudun
    13 K.Levinsky
    14 M.Walker
    15 Mann
    16 Ramage
    17 Godoy
    18 Nova
    19 Farr
    20 Lovell
    21 Rosenbloom
    22 Lewis
    23 Lasky
    24 Fox
    25 Retzlaff
    26 Neusel
    27 Poreda
    28 B.Baer
    29 Burman
    30 Risko
    31 Galento
    32 Toles
    33 Griffith
    34 Gains
    35 Trammel
    36 Blunt
    37 O.Walker
    38 Barlund
    39 Adamick
    40 Ettore
    41 Reddish
    42 Haynes
    43 Massera
    44 Knox
    45 Paycheck
    46 Winstone
    47 Dudas
    48 Strickland
    49 Godfrey
    50 Hankinson
     
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  12. Fogger

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    Quite the list you've made. Ernie Schaaf usually flies under the radar but, in the 1930s, he had a lot of good wins and very few losses. Excellent list.
     
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  13. HistoryZero26

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    Braddock was fighting underweight most of his career and was terribly mismanaged. Braddock finished his career 7-1 with the Louis loss and wins over 3 of my top 5. If Braddock was fighting at 195 pounds he could have been the guy between Tunney and Louis. Braddocks career is kind of WLW. He had two great runs with a bad run in between. Its very easy to compartmentalize his career into 3 chapters.

    While John Henry Lewis was the LHW champ hes probably got the 2nd deepest HW resume of the era and was kinda a psuedo champion during the Braddock years with many of his HW fights designated 15 rounders.

    Tommy Farr is more of a potential pick but I still think he showed enough to edge out Max Baer for 5th. I would pick him over a Baer or Schmeling. He was arguably the best British HW of the century before Lennox.

    Schmelings resume if you take away the Louis win has a lot of problems that normally get called out. But the Louis win makes it all go away.
     
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  14. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    now that's commitment, I can't comment beyond the list above for 39, though I loosely thought 'possible' Farr and I always wondered about Toles, Burman and Nova.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    For me, it's very clearly Max Schmeling.
     
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