Rico Verhoeven vs Oleksandr Usyk official for WBC Heavyweight Championship — May 23 in Egypt (DAZN)

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Who would win?

  1. Rico Verhoeven

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  2. Oleksandr Usyk

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Seems common sense! And he's trained by Peter Fury.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He surely did. The narrative he didn't is just a pure copium one created by boxing fans to help them cope with their sport and GOAT being embarrassed by a rank novice. They've even managed to convince themselves that Mr I hate getting hit Floyd wanted to be humiliate himself by getting caught with those educated counters
     
  3. ubareem

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    Rico is not as powerful as Ngannou, but he's a way more technically proficient pugilist and kickboxer.

    I'd rather see Usyk face Kabayel or Wardley too, but people are acting like it's complete mismatch... Maybe it is, but Rico's not a bum.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, for 15 years. Sparred with Wlad, Hughie all throughout that time, Dave Allen, and many other HWs in Peter's gym

    Allen said Rico was massive and he crapped himself when he first saw him and that when he sparred him Rico was really good, had good fundamentals and that he had him on the backfoot and was really really physically strong
     
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  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    No he didn’t. Floyd is a cautious fighter with hand problems who takes his time to judge his opponents. This allowed Mcgregor to land a few shots. Mcgregor was also slapping with a lot of those punches because he knew that loading up would lead to him getting countered badly.

    by no means did Mcgregor school Floyd. Other than one half decent uppercut, everything he landed were slappy punches with nothing on them.

    i am a fan of Usyk. Picked him to beat Joshua and Fury. Have cheered for him for a long time. But folks are grasping at straws to justify this match up.

    it does not matter if Allen or Peter Fury claim Rico is a damn good boxer. If he is such a good boxer, let him fight just one legit top 15 ranked heavyweight like a Sanchez or Torres Jr. just one. If he can win such a fight, then by all means let him fight Usyk.

    i criticized Fury for fighting Nnganou so why should Usyk be exempt? Usyk needed to contractually rematch Joshua and Fury but he did not have a contractual obligation to rematch Dubois.

    Even after the Dubois rematch, he was going on about rematching Chisora, Fury and Joshua. Why? Why should this not be worthy of criticism?

    if you want to build a great heavyweight resume, you need variety. Why even mention a third Fury fight or a third Joshua fight? Why try to make a fight vs WIlder rather than Wardley? And now this?

    Usyk is the best heavyweight of his era regardless of what happens from now. But these antics are worth criticizing.
     
  6. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only thing this fight has shown me is that Usyk has developed a genuine cult. There is nothing he could do where somebody won't come out to defend it. He's fighting a kickboxer who has had 1 pro fight against a journeyman. Nobody who is an active unified champion of any division should be fighting anyone out of the top 30. Honestly, I'd say the top 15, but at most the top 30. Especially if you want to talk about "warm-up fights" - Jake Paul, Mark De Mori, and Johnny Fisher would be more worthy alternatives. There are fighters in the top 10 who have worked for decades to get a shot at the coveted WBC belt, and it is a complete slap in the face to them.
     
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  7. Serge

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    Already addressed that and my opinion remains the same. Floyd vs Conor wasn't supposed to be remotely competitive but it sure as hell was while Conor still had air in his lungs and Conor's slickness, something which has always caused Floyd issues and longer reach which was something Floyd wasn't used to and ring IQ enabled him to walk Floyd into educated counters and the surprise etched across Floyd's face that he'd been caught by those shots was unmistakable

    It absolutely does matter they are world class trainers or pretty good professional boxers who have literally shared a ring with a who's who of the top HWs in the world

    He doesn't have to fight a top 15 contender it's a historical crossover superfight between two legends and ATGs who have forged entire careers fighting the best fighters in their respective weight classes whilst displaying impeccable conduct in and out of the ring and thus racking up unlimited grace points and neither have lost a fight in a combined 28 years. That's the whole point.

    I have no issue with people criticizing Usyk but context needs to be applied, that being Usyk's age, the stage of his career he's at, after a career fighting the best and tough touches B2B and in complete contrast to all of his fellow greats and ATGs no matter how high they rank, having no soft touches on his CV, and it's ONE freaking fight

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    'I've hated these ''novelty/cross-over'' fights since day one. My stance hasn't changed. I knew it was a slippery slope that had no bottom. And now it's come to Usyk vs a kick boxer (with the heavyweight title on the line)

    But why is it some fighters are lauded and encouraged to ''get that bag'', while others aren't?

    Is it about ''dat bag'' or not?'
     
  8. ubareem

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    But this is not a warm-up fight, it's purportedly (even though the WBC seem to have retracted their support?) some sort of title fight.

    The main reason why this is happening is because Turki wants it. Turki and the saudis would not be emptying out buckets of cash for a festive event among the pyramids of Giza, if they weren't eager to make this fight.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

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    His first non-unification, mandatory, contractual rematch in years. And the only guy he now owes a fight to will get one before the year is up.

    We are not a "cult" because we are not losing our heads over a bit of fun.
     
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  10. Serge

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    Why aren't you holding Usyk to the same standard for doing something once at 39 y/o at the end of a career of impeccable conduct fighting the best and tough challenges B2B on a deck stacked against him that others did in their primes after careers with many soft touches and less than impeccable conduct? Such a huge double standard

    Why aren't you criticizing 10 x Employee of the Year for being late once who never takes sickies and who turns up 15 minutes early for work everyday when you criticized those other employees who often came in late and whose report records weren't near as good? Gee I wonder why?
     
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    According to the WBC, Usyk has to fight Kabayel next, and its possible that they will actually enforce it. If Usyk vacates then Kabayel gets elevated to champion.
    The current WBC top 10:
    1 Lawrence Okolie
    2 Daniel Dubois
    3 Anthony Joshua
    4 Moses Itauma
    5 Filip Hrgovic
    6 Efe Ajagba
    7 Martin Bakole
    8 Richard Torrez Jr.
    9 Frank Sanchez
    10 Zhilei Zhang


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  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I have criticized Fury far more than I have ever criticized Usyk and I was delighted to see Usyk batter Fury.

    the whole “he is 39” makes no sense. He has had 24 prp contests over the course of 12 years. While he had a lengthy amateur career, he does not have the same wear and tear that former more active champions did. Guys who were world champions in their early or mid 20s are going to be much more worn out by that age than a guy who became a champ at 30 and fights once a year , on average.

    the criticism isn’t just about Rico. It’s about rematching Dubois even though Dubois was the one who pulled out of fighting Parker.

    even after beating Dubois in the rematch, he starts calling Fury and Joshua, two guys he has beaten twice each. And then calls out Chisora and Wilder. This is unjust.


    The whole “he deserves an easy fight” is for guys who defend 2-3 times a year. Not for a once defence a year guy. It shows the division down.
     
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  13. James Hudson

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    Utterly pathetic choice of fight by Uysk!! Anyone claiming to justify this 'fight' needs to give their heads a wobble
     
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  14. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    This.
     
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  15. ubareem

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    Once again, Turki wanted this fight and Turki and the Saudis are paying big bucks for it too. Not only is Usyk getting a big paycheck, it's also a historically unique combat sports event among the PYRAMIDS OF GIZA.

    No matter what you think about the match-up, Usyk would be mad to reject this offer.
     
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