Rico Verhoeven vs Oleksandr Usyk official for WBC Heavyweight Championship — May 23 in Egypt (DAZN)

Joeywill · Mar 4, 2026

Serge said: ↑

Imagine forging a career fighting the best and tough touches B2B in their backyards again and again on a deck stacked against you or on the road

Literally jumping at the chance to fight them in their backyards time and time again regardless of how much bigger, stronger and more powerful they are than you

Their respective styles

How hard they punch

Whilst running a gauntlet of savage punchers and KO artists who are some of the biggest punchers in the sport, and legit bangers like few others

In their backyards or on the road

Many way bigger than you

With zero deck-stacking and trying to weaken or cripple them at the negotiating table or gain any kind of advantage be it fair or unfair to try and even the playing field

With zero use of dirty or illegal tactics to try and even the playing field and gain some kind of advantage

Many of them being undefeated, undefeated reigning champions

With all your opponents at the world level being 36 or under and many being much or you get than you when you are old and past your prime

Winning and unifying all your world titles sans 1 in their backyards and even the one time you don't the deck was still stacked against you

Whilst fighting all the world champions at least once in their backyards or agreeing to and even the times you didn't you still would've jumped at the chance to fight them in their backyards if that was what was on the table

Whist displaying impeccable, borderline saintly even, conduct in and out of the ring throughout even when facing extreme provocation and disrespect and being criminally underpaid for someone so accomplished and talented who has achieved everything they have the hard way often as the B side

And then after doing everything asked of you or anyone could ask of a fighter whilst treading a path so many of your fellow greats wouldn't even consider treading and achieving all there is to achieve you get crucified for taking a money fight, just one fight right at the end stage of your career and your first supposed 'soft touch' when you're 39 y/o, whereas, conversely, every other fellow ATG and legend no matter how high up they reside on the ATG list fought numerous or many soft touches in their primes, let alone when almost 40,

And your supposed 'soft touch' is against another giant who is way bigger than you, and who hasn't lost a fight in 11 years and is a fellow GOAT in their respective combat sport?

And many of the same people who are hammering the nails into your hands and feet worship at the altar of fighters who are filthy dirty serial cheats PED cheats, or risk averse deck-stackers who would never have taken the risks Usyk did or they did without having every advantage they could wangle in their favour to ensure said risk was minimized as much as possible or just fighters who never would've trodden the path Usyk did and whose conduct was far from impeccable

I'll say it again. What's the point of turning up early for work 10 mins early everyday, never being late or taking sickies, and winning Employee of the Month every year if the first time you take a sickie or are late your boss fires you when all his other employees take sickies and are late often or who have at least done so many times?

What's the point of doing everything the right, honourable and noble way if it's not going to be appreciated or completely forgotten the first time you falter of deviate from that path slightly?
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This would be like an employing coming in 10 min early everyday, winning employee of the month every month, and then stealin 1 million dollars.

Cojimar 1946 · Mar 4, 2026

Any boxing fan would take an Usyk that fights 3 times a year over one that fights once a year regardless of deck stacking or ped allegations

That surely would be enough to compensate for shenanigans in terms of deck stacking which often don't work anyway

Serge · Mar 4, 2026

Joeywill said: ↑

This would be like an employing coming in 10 min early everyday, winning employee of the month every month, and then stealin 1 million dollars.
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What an absolutely ridiculous analogy

mrbigshot · Mar 4, 2026

Cojimar 1946 said: ↑

What's honorable about fighting once a year?

Of all things that would **** of boxing fans that's among the worst examples I can think of besides fighting even less frequently or never facing top contenders.

Any boxing fan would take an Usyk that fights 3 times a year over one that fights once a year regardless of deck stacking or ped allegations
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Its a forum full of usyk fanboys and nothing more . Nothing is honorable if he does not perform a drastic course change .

like a boss · Mar 4, 2026

Usyk requested this farce against a 1-0 opponent be for the WBC title. He specifically requested it be for the title!

WTF?

Wizbit1013 · Mar 4, 2026

mrbigshot said: ↑

Its a forum full of usyk fanboys and nothing more . Nothing is honorable if he does not perform a drastic course change .
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I dunno, there's 1 huge hater on here

Wizbit1013 · Mar 4, 2026

like a boss said: ↑

Usyk requested this farce against a 1-0 opponent be for the WBC title. He specifically requested it be for the title!

WTF?
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I just read about that

Oh dear

Pepsi Dioxide · Mar 4, 2026

The WBC sanctioning this is so funny

So if Verhoven drops out can we have LeBron James fight for the WBC title? He's accomplished so much in his sport and he's 6'9 250 pound giant.

catchwtboxing · Mar 4, 2026

like a boss said: ↑

Usyk requested this farce against a 1-0 opponent be for the WBC title. He specifically requested it be for the title!

WTF?
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I've never understood this logic. Why wouldn't it otherwise be for the championship? Uysk is the champion. He's fighting a boxing match. If Verhouven beats him, why wouldn't he be champion?

like a boss · Mar 4, 2026

catchwtboxing said: ↑

I've never understood this logic. Why would it otherwise be fro the championship? Uysk is the champion. He's fighting a boxing match. If Verhouven beats him, why wouldn't he be champion?
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You don't know what a non-title fight is then?

catchwtboxing · Mar 4, 2026

like a boss said: ↑

You don't know what a non-title fight is then?
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I know what it is, but I don't approve of the concept. If Verhhoeven beat Usyk, why wouldn't he be the champ? So now you have a champ that isn;'t as good as someone else?

like a boss · Mar 4, 2026

catchwtboxing said: ↑

I know what it is, but I don't approve of the concept. If Verhhoeven beat Usyk, why wouldn't he be the champ? So now you have a champ that isn;'t as good as someone else?
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Non-title fights have been around a lot longer than you or I have. They are what they are and Usyk could have fought a non-title fight with his 1-0 challenger. Instead Usyk REQUESTED it be a title fight. It's on him.

catchwtboxing · Mar 4, 2026

like a boss said: ↑

Non-title fights have been around a lot longer than you or I. They are what they are.
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So were slavery and human sacrifice. I don't approve of those, either.

like a boss · Mar 4, 2026

catchwtboxing said: ↑

So were slavery and human sacrifice. I don't approve of those, either.
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A non-title fight was a valid option and that's what a 1-0 challenger should have received but Usyk REQUESTED it be a title fight. It's on him.

catchwtboxing · Mar 4, 2026

like a boss said: ↑

A non-title fight was a valid option and that's what a 1-0 challenger should have received but Usyk REQUESTED it be a title fight. It's on him.
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sure, but what is on him? Insisting that a guy who is fighting him has a shot at being champ? I fail to see how that is dishonorable, or how not giving him the shot would be honorable.

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