What do we define as a "duck" ?

Hello gents !

There is a current discussion in several threads about "ducking" fights .

The term is of course speculative since no boxer will go out and say "i ducked" .

For me a duck is basicly easy to define :

Intentionally avoiding an entitled contender who is potentially competitive

What are your opinions and definitions what a "duck" is and what not ? Hope for a good discussion !

Best regards

 

"Duck" on this forum, generally means: Any fight that fans want to see, that hasn't been made.

 

Intentionally choosing a weaker opponent to avoid the risk of losing to a more dangerous opponent, despite there being significant demand for the boxer to face the more dangerous opponent.

 

What if the fighter chooses the weaker fighter because that fight brings more money?

 

Generally this. Avoiding an opponent who appears better/more dangerous especially when said opponent would offer a higher payday. That would mean a fighter would take a pay cut to fight lesser foes.

 

I think if one is "weaker" but still of quality and does bring more money, it's OK. So long as the avoidance of the better fighter doesn't get prolonged.

 

Usyk is ducking Jai and Bivol according to this board

 

For me the best historical example to use is Harry Wills being ducked by Dempsey. Where the fighter clearly is showing an aversion to a specific matchup and is trying to find a way to avoid it. With the rise of the "0" the term duck is now used for more general behavior.

 

"I don't want to fight him because the money ain't right"
"I don't want to fight him because his style is boring"
"I don't want to fight him because the fans wouldn't like the fight"

None of these are legitimate excuses for ducking smoke.............

 

No one has said that Elle. Why do you feed in to this type of pointless rhetoric? You aren't making any legitimate points with this type of post.

 

Any time a promoter says the fight needs to percolate, marinate, or any of the "nates."

 

You’re right lance, the Usyk hate hasn’t gotten out of had at all. That’s why we have people crying every day about him not fighting a fat mediocre Turk whose best win is a 45 year old Chinese guy who lost to Hrgovic and Jerry Forrest.

 

example: Floyd ducked Margarito, Prime Pacquiao and Amir Khan

 

That should be described as a financial duck

 

He didn't lose to Forrest

And use context too

He became severely ill and was lucky to finish the fight
If you've seen the fight you'll know Forrest was ready to be knocked out at any given moment

Credit to him for coming back but lets not pretend he didn't have a slice of luck