Can George Foreman survive 12 rounds with Oleksandr Usyk

Numnuts obsession with Foreman is unhealthy. I can't for the life of me work out why people get so triggered. Another bloke is running around stalking anything good said about Lewis LOL!

Big Joe has a few assets that hold him in OK stead with some of the others but far from all. There's not much skill getting around and Usyk is showing them all up. Personally i think Fury from a few years earlier would have been tough er but he fought pretty well in their two encounters. Usyk is like a breath of fresh air among this lot. He's just too skillful and busy. Someone who can actually fight, if not as good as some proclaim.

 

Joyce beat a future champion and future top five contender on the way up, both superheavies. Foreman in the 70s never even beat a guy of their size, let alone Joyce's size.

 

There’s no universe where Usyk KO’s Foreman.

If it goes 12, Usyk on points.
Anything less and Foreman has won by KO.

Either scenario is possible. All other scenarios can virtually be ruled out.

 

What are you talking about? Foreman has been knocked down before and has not finished fights. If Ron Lyle can put George down than so can Usyk.

 

You think Usyk hits like Lyle?

That’s pretty funny.

 

Replace Young with Usyk on that night in Puerto Rico and Usyk stops Foreman late.

 

Foreman didn’t want to be there. It’s unreasonable to use that against him.

I could just as easily say replace Chisora with Foreman and Usyk likely gets KO’d.

 

You said there is no universe where Usyk stops Foreman, so I showed you that there is. You're moving a goalpoast as I never said there is no universe where Foreman stops Usyk.

"Foreman didn’t want to be there" LOL! He didn't want to be in Zaire too, right?

 

Silly me, I assume in good faith that when we do these hypotheticals that it’s the best version of both fighters.

Otherwise it’s just as easy to say that Trevor Berbick was better than Muhammad Ali.

I’m not the one moving the goalposts chum. The best version of Foreman never gets KO’d by the best version of Usyk. Usyk may beat him on points but he doesn’t crack that chin.

 

If Ali could stop the best version of Foreman, Usyk could too. No rope-a-dope needed. I don't think anyone argues that Usyk can brutally KO Foreman, just that he can exhaust him and stop him that way. George had shyte stamina, Usyk one of the best ever.

Muhammad Ali that fought Berbick was shot to pieces. There's no comparing that version of Ali to prime (or near prime) version of Foreman that fought Young.

 

Right, so it’s okay to make excuses for some fighters but not others?

Got it. I’ll just stick you on ignore now and get on with my life. I don’t waste time with disingenuous people and your history on this forum is well established in that regard.

Over and out.

 

Saying Ali was shot to pieces in 1981 is not an excuse, it's a well known fact. Saying George "didn't want to be there" to bail him out out of Jimmy Young outboxing him in his prime, is an excuse. Learn the difference. Comparing these is really grasping for straws. The only disingenuous person in here is you, you're projecting and moving the goalpoast just because I shot down your stupid theory that "There’s no universe where Usyk KO’s Foreman." And you're trying to personally attack me. Well, I understand. Peace out.

 

I think if you have to cry to the referee twice over getting punched in the body. You are not gonna survive 8 rounds of body punching before you get KOed.

 

Ali has a proven track record of stopping durable fighters. Usyk doesn't

 

Usyk was outweighted by a lot in every one of his fights in the HW division. Ali stopped Foreman who wasn't much bigger than him.