Mike Tysons power was hugely overrated

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  1. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Saying Tyson's power is overrated is like saying that breathing and eating food is overrated.

    Without qualifying it further and talking about thee very hardest puncher, in which case, I think Tyson isn't that, his power in undeniable. Bwoken backs, people crying in the wing, his style was impetuous, defence was impregnable, he was too ferocious, he ate hearts, Tokyo poon and drank the tears of his victims.

    Give him his accolades.
     
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  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hugely overrated...WOW.

    Top ten puncher (probably a bit below Liston in terms of heaviness), but the velocities he achieved, especially considering the strength he actually did have to work with, were devastatingly effective. Mike was probably around a Mike Weaver level of overall punching power, but D'amato trained him how to maul while using confounding head movement and outstanding sense of balance in and out of the weave. I mean, he could pretty much always keep coming forward because he wasn't that easy to hit, he had a prematurely high ring IQ as well.

    I mean, I could pull up Mike all day. In his prime he was gloriously terrifying, maybe not on a Foreman or Liston level but indubitably awe-inspiring.

    Do I think the aforementioned Foreman, Holmes, Steward-era Lewis, Usyk could beat him? Oh yeah. Mike admitted he lacked that do-or-die Weltanschauung that Ali had, it explains why he never got seriously hurt and then came back and win a fight, something Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Ali most certainly did. Once Mike got staggered badly or knocked down (neither happened in the Ruddock matches, he was never anywhere near going down at any time during those fights) it was just a matter of time...

    So, overrated? Deontay, Shavers, Foreman, Lewis, Liston, Tua, arguably Frazier hit harder.

    A very strong puncher with fast, educated-beyond-their-years fists and feet...an apocalyptic combination that begets the same.
     
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  3. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mike hits harder than Frazier, especially off both hands.

    Frazier's hook just looks silkier and more automatic because he can fire it so consistently but compare hooks and uppercuts from both sides, Mike hits noticeably harder than Joe.
     
  4. Usernamehere

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    I think Frazier..Cooper for sure. Bonecrusher for sure.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You had to beat Mike down to get him out of there.

    He could have a dog fight.

    I don’t agree when people question why he didn’t get up to win a fight.

    That had nothing to do with a lack of heart.

    It took a still great version of Lennox 8 rounds to get rid of them.

    It wasn’t a lack of heart that kept him from getting up.

    Regarding Usyk, as great as he is, he doesn’t have anything to have kept Mike off of him.

    It would have been an awful stylistic match up for him.
     
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  6. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    I think those who post stupid topics are overrated.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which Cooper?

    Bert?

    Henry?

    Tommy?
     
  8. Usernamehere

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    They did not fear His power. They feared him.
    A guy who fought Tyson in the amateurss Said Tyson has good chain punching and was a good pressure fighter but didn't hit particularly hard.
     
  9. Usernamehere

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    Bert Cooper hit harder. Bonecrusher too. Both those guys hit very Hard. Cusdamato never labelled Mike a huge puncher. He said sharp, good or something to that effect.
     
  10. Loudon

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    They feared him because of his power and his speed.

    He didn’t hit particularly hard?

    Yet he wiped out Spinks and Holmes in about 5 rounds combined.

    We have plenty of evidence to suggest that he did.

    There’s no point in continuing.

    Everyone has already proven you wrong.
     
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  11. Usernamehere

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    Holmes was 38 and had been retired for 2 years drinking beer and singing karaokee. Look at his Body if you don't believe me...He was promised a 4 month training camp that was reduced to 2. It was completely set Up to pad Tysons record further
     
  12. Jakub79

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    No one serious does four-month training camps. What world do you live in?
    Besides, Holmes supposedly never trained 100%, and as he himself said, the break had a regenerative effect on him.
    He'd known about the Tyson fight for a long time, negotiated the contract for almost a year, and already knew during Tyson's fight with Biggs that he'd have another chance.

    What did his body look like? A little worse than when he fought Berbick, a little better than when he fought Mercer.

    Didn't Larry have an exhibition fight with Shavers before the Tyson fight?
     
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  13. Usernamehere

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    He was not an active fighter. That's why he needed it. Smiths win over witherspoon is a stronger som than any active fighter Mike beat, if you discard spinks dive.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    BS.
     
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  15. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko was 37 years old and had a four-year layoff when he faced Peter and put on the most impressive fight of his career. Wlad was 41 years old and had a two-year layoff when he faced AJ's prime and came within a whisker of winning one of the best fights of his career.

    Leonard, after a four-year layoff, achieved the greatest success of his career. We also write about a man who was the best heavyweight over 40 in history, but for some reason, he was weaker against Tyson than in any other fight of his career.

    Based on their experience with their fights against Berbick, Williams, and Spinks, the result of the Holmes-Tyson fight is no coincidence. Larry fought them for a total of three hours, scoring one knockdown and losing at least once, and perhaps three times. Tyson needed a total of eight minutes against all of them. every minute of which he dominated.
    Tyson's punching power may be somewhat overrated, but his devastating capabilities are supported by numerous facts.
     
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