Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by houmzz, Aug 21, 2014.


  1. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've thought about this, I don't think Washington sticks around long and I think Teremoana can beat Forrest and go some rounds. It's a step up for sure but it's not too much of a step IMO
     
  2. PopPellegrino

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    He still has a lot of room to grow, so I want him to fight more journeymen. I do pick Teremoana over Forrest, but Forrest could kick his ass. The heavyweight division needs prospects like Teremoana to develop into strong champions or contenders. I think the highest level guy he can face right now is Johnny Rice, who beat undefeated Polite-Coffie and Vianello, but he’s still very beatable.
     
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  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    No need to rush him but no need to go the slow route either. He should be in a good position when the belts inevitably splinter off again in a couple of years or less. The division is going to be wide open very soon.
     
  4. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rice hasn't been seen in over 3 years he's completely MIA
     
  5. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Pretty nicely planned out. I respect it.

    Always good to take it slowly as long as you're actually active at this stage of career, rather than fighting once every six months like a certain someone.
     
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  6. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I listen out for him on the Mannix/Mora podcast which might add some name recognition into the mix. I like that pathway above as long as it's spaced a couple of months apart, with none of these a near-year of nothing breaks.

    I've got a question ... assuming not stumbles ... who are the around/under 30 emerging HWs he's likely to collide with who are doing the same from another direction?
     
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  7. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    I'm very wary about such prospects - I don't want to rush judgement on anyone. But, a lot of people are hyping up Moses Itauma obviously. Always natural for there to be hype around Olympic gold medalists such as Jalolov but Jalolov has shown no interest in a serious pro career so far.
     
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  8. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I've been following Jalolov since early in his amateur days, as I knew Uzbeks in Korea when I was there. there's a district near the Russian district in Seoul believe it or not ... lots of night clubs etc round that area. He's a 'whatever' ... no-one bothers with taking interest in him, but he might turn up and make some waves, I don't really care as of now tho. Gurgen I liked but lost interest in. D Pero, looked like he was picking up the grade but might end up wasting years. Itauma at least is going to make or break over 2026 I think so at least we will know one way or another whether he's a real deal belt contender wise. Lot's of Russians and Ukrainians early in the pro game.
     
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  9. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    Talked to Rice on Instagram; he is still willing to fight for $100,000.
     
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  10. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    True, fighting every month against journeymen/low-level gatekeepers will be better for development than fighting every 6 months against the Dempsey McKeans of the boxing world. Moses is very talented, though, despite my criticisms, and he will bring more good than bad in the heavyweight division.
     
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  11. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Interesting. I love this sport when you can randomly message HW gatekeepers and they say they'll be down to fight for XXX amount of money.
     
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  12. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    I'm really hoping Itauma will have a quick return to boxing after the Franklin fight - before summer peaks, even if its against a gatekeeper like Jarrell Miller. Hes still only 21, and Usyk isn't going to fight him before he retires.
     
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  13. PopPellegrino

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    Miller would take him the full 10 rounds. He has a much more proven chin than Franklin; in fact, I’d say he has the best chin in the division. I’d like to see that fight next, or a fight with Huni soon.
     
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  14. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not saying Rice wouldn't be a good pick but 3 years inactive at age 39 doesn't seem to bode very well

    For what it's worth I want to see Teremoana continue to be active
     
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  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Rice got blackballed for being too dangerous for mediocre prospects. Was a sure pick to give guys some rounds and test their chins.