Lennox Lewis Vs Vitali Klitschko 2- Who Wins A Rematch?

"I do not want to reveal my strategies for the fight against Lewis. My preparations right now are top secret. I will present my strategies and my plans in the ring."

https://www.boxinginsider.com/interviews/interview-with-wladimir-vitali-klitschko/
He said straight up he was preparing for Lewis. His words over yours. At the very least he was studying Lewis wheras Lewis underestimated him

Lewis threw over 500 punches against Mercer half of them being power punches he had good stamina but not great. Also that "edge" is irrelevant for most of the fight.

No, Lewis won because he punched a bunch of holes into Vitalis face. You're making more bs up. Lewis was always aggressive against taller large fighters he'd have done the same thing at 245lb. He manhandled Grant and walked Akinwande and Tucker down. There is nothing from past performances suggesting that Lewis wouldn't be able to hold his own in the clinches against Vitali if he were in better shape or prepared better.

You claimed Lewis being heavier gave him the win and not because of cuts (it was stopped because of cuts) What kind of nonesense is going on inside your head

All you are doing is contributing any success Lewis had in the clinches to him being heavier and nothing else this is literally a textbook example of conformation bias.

Stop responding

 

No he didn't, preparing for someone is going through a training camp for an upcoming match, Vitali didn't do that, he just developed some vague plans that were still ongoing by his wording.

Cute, Vitali threw 1000+ punches against Kirk Johnson. At 38 with roughly the same amount of power shots as Lewis against Mercer. And this guy was tired against an old Lewis when he was younger, so you guess the effect of clinches. That "edge" is literally the only reason he won the fight, Lewis was getting plastered and nearly KO'd at range before he started roughing Vitali up in the clinch. At least watch the match before talking.

Are you genuinely mentally ill? Like legitimately ******ed or something? Did they throw you on your flat head as a kid? He punched those holes during their clinch-war. THEY WERE FIGTHING IN THE CLINCH. Can you understand that? IN THE CLINCH. WHERE LEWIS' WEIGHT HELPED HIM. He was getting f***** up and nearly slept at range. Grant, Akinwande, Tucker, those guys can't lick the dirt off of a prime Vitali's shoes, both skill-wise and physically. Lewis at 256 lbs, with a 10 lbs weight advantage, could barely hold Vitali in the clinch. How tf will a lighter Lewis do better up close? Genuinely how will Vitali do worse in the clinch against a lighter guy that will be easier to push off? All that lightness will only aid Lewis with better mobility and speed, which won't matter considering how badly he was getting beaten by Vitali at range. There's nothing a 38 year old Lewis can do to beat a young Vitali at range regardless of his weight, and the heavier he is, the better his chances are up close.

 

There's no point in trying to convince these guys. They're immune to facts and common sense.
Lewis was a great champion, but never as brilliant as they think he was, and at some point, he became a sacred cow to fans, who would go into hysterics whenever someone objectively assessed him.

If you knock Lewis out, it's a fluke. If Lewis knocks you out, it's absolute proof of his superiority. Even if he split Vito's eyebrow, which is usually considered a fluke if you lose the fight, it's still an absolute victory for them; it's simply a waste of time.

If Tyson, who was much smaller and relied on dynamics, weighed 15 pounds more than he did in his best fights, it doesn't matter. If the tall Lewis, who has always been a static fighter utilizing his reach and punching power, weighs 10 pounds more than in his prime, he's a fat wreck completely incapable of fighting. Even a fight like the one against Klitschko—full of clinches, grappling, shoving, and physical confrontation.

What can be said about Foreman against Holyfield, weighing 50 pounds more than in his prime and significantly older than Lewis?

 

Cope. Vitalis words over yours. He said he was preparing and had stratagies for a potential fight against Lennox Lewis 6 months before it happened. It should be extrapolated from his own words he was at least studying Lewis. But as for Lewis he underestimated Vitali and didn't see him as a threat

He stopped Kirk in 2 rounds goofy. You mean Kevin Johnson ? Kevin Johnson is a bum and the vast majority of Vitalis punches were jabs which takes less energy than power punches. Also there were 6 rounds to go. You don't know what would've happened.

Additionally it's funny you contribute most of Vitalis exhaustion to clinching when he was bleeding profusely out of 4 spots. Bleeding can cause fatigue, or did you not know this ? Maybe that's why he looked more tired than normal, because he was leaking a bunch of red blood cells

The first gash over the eye was caused by a right hand outside of the clinch, so you're already starting off with a bit of misinformation. Can you timestamp specifically when the other cuts were caused ? If not then what you're saying is just partial speculation. Lewis landed plenty of power punches outside of the clinch as did Vitali.

Lewis not being as lethargic at 245 pounds might be a good start and his physical strength would stay the same, his best performances were also in the 240s. Last time Lewis was nearly that heavy he got KO'd by Rahman, so cleary there's a small side effect. An extra 10 pounds on top of 246 will not make any drastic difference as far as leaning on opponents would go. And even if it were a little disadvantageous at 245 he'd be a bit faster, a bit sharper at all ranges, he wouldn't be as much of a plodder, all of that contributes. You aren't being logical and attributing almost all of Lewis's success and his victory to being a bit overweight when the fight got stopped on cuts.

Go ahead and explain how an extra 10 pounds won the fight for Lewis when the cut that caused the stoppage wasn't even created during a clinch

 

Nah I'm leaving this site, you are legitimately ****ing stupid, you don't know jack**** about the sport and this whole place is filled with idiots like you. Hopefully you'll see the correct path once again, like you did with Tyson Fury and make posts about it like a good little *****. Cheers.

 

Vitali had no success against Lewis in close. None whatsoever. No ability to tie him up. No attacking. Nothing. Taking the fight in close is how Lewis won.
He plodded his way in there. Lighter Lewis closes the gap quicker and lets his hands go faster. Worse outcome for Vits against prime Lewis

 

Because Dino knows best, right? Emanuel and Foreman both commented about Lennox's additional weight was beneficial for him.

Vitali still catches Lewis even if he was lighter and his punches wouldn't have the same power.

 

Lewis was an eyesore against Vitali.. so out of shape. Did he really underestimate Vitali enough to not go through his usual training? He looked terrible, but he still had those slicing punches.

 

Lewis fought like a caveman. Plodding. Walking face first into punches. Only k-fans would say being out of shape is an advantage.

 

How many 38+ year old fat heavyweights actually got into shape and looked good in their next fight?

Is that even a thing?

 

What a spicy thread!

Even late stagers, in not the best of shape, can give a masterful effort, as Lenny did. He's a guy who learned pro boxing on the job, and as his physical assets declined somewhat his mastery of the game increased. Same as another Steward fighter that comes to mind.

Vitali never reached the mastery of the sport as Lenny did. Well, very, very few did, so that's no jab at Vit. But Lenny would win every time out. He's one of the three or four greatest fighters in that division in its history. And he's there for a reason.

 

And that's Vitali's fault? When is Lennox going to get it through his thick skull - you don't come to fights unmotivated / out of shape. He got laid out twice doing that before.

I still want to hear someone answer why he was willing to turn down $50 million for a rematch.

 

Dude had been through the greatest collection of powerpunching, DANGEROUS heavyweights that any man ever faced, man sized heavies that could take out other man sized heavies with a single punch, and a long list of them... Mason, Ruddock, Weaver< Morrison, Tua, Rahman, Tyson, Grant, Briggs, Golota, Mercer, Butler, McCall, Bruno, Tucker, Holy twice, and yes, Vitalit. He was 37 and had been fighting at the very top level for a dozen years and 30 fights. There is nothing to question about his decision.

 

Hear hear!!!! It's not as if Lewis came back in rematches and stopped the only two fighters who ever beat him!!!!!!

 

To the contrary he proved he couldn't. When half your face is hanging and you need 60 stitches to reattach it you have by no means shown you could take anybody's best punch. It's no co-incidence that The Lion was the best opponent he ever faced. The gap between a poorly trained rusty Lewis and Vitali's second best opponent is HUUUUUUUUGE.