Wilder trains hitting a 400 pound heavybag

And Herndon gave Wilder zero issues. A reasonable tune up after two consecutive losses to shed some rust, now he's taking on Chisora.

Given that Wilder proceeded to fight his mandatory and better opponents, how is this considered a duck exactly? If Whyte wasn't the mandatory, Wilder had no obligation to fight him. If he should have been a mandatory (something I personally agree with) then that's between Whyte and the WBC.

There's no excuse for AJ fighting Jake Paul when he could fight literally anyone else, especially when you're trying to rag on Wilder facing an actual boxer.

For all the criticism Wilder gets here, at least he's actually fighting better opposition. He isn't out there taking on Ngannou, Jake Paul and a kickboxer barely anyone has heard of.

 

No evidence for Ortiz being feared and ducked. When he was supposedly being ducked Joshua was fighting more accomplished opponents like Povetkin and Parker.

He also has multiple failed PED tests that derailed his career.

 

Joshua seems to be finished as a top level fighter. If he wants to take gimmick fights at this stage I don't see the problem. He isn't demanding a title shot or anything.

 

The WBC offered Whyte multiple eliminators, which he turned down. They offered him a WBC interim fight, and he failed his drug test. They granted him a WBC title fight, he failed miserably ... and then he had the nerve to demand they give him another title fight because he claimed Fury pushed him down, and that's why he lost.

Whyte was the most petulant whiner of that era.

There were four organizations. The other three wouldn't give him the time of day.

Whyte was even the WBO #1 contender, and when Usyk decided to move up, they bounced him.

None of you guys ever bring that up, though. Because then you would have to say Usyk and Joshua were being protected.

That doesn't fit in your Wilder bashing narrative.

 

Who said Joshua ducked him? I said Whyte ducked him, refused the WBC mandatory fight with Ortiz, and all those guys everyone brings up who Whyte fought, none of them fought Ortiz, either.

Ortiz was the "ducked" heavyweight contender of that era. Only Wilder had the stones to fight him ... Twice. Nobody else would.

When did Whyte, Fury, Parker, Povetkin, Chisora, Helenius, Rivas, Browne, any of them, even make an overture to fight Ortiz? Ortiz was ranked as long as any of them.

And Whyte was banned for two years for PED use. Whyte was also caught before he fought Rivas, and his team had the results hidden so the fight would go ahead.

Whyte got every opportunity with the WBC, despite him turning down multiple mandatory eliminator requests (when no other orgs were offering him anything). They let him fight for three of their belts. Silver, Interim and World.

All Whyte's opportunities came from the WBC. Not the other orgs.

Yet the "Whyte got cheated by the WBC" crew persists.

 

Same argument could be made for Wilder, but you don't see him fighting non-boxers.

 

Fury, Helenius and Parker fought Wilder who beat Ortiz so the argument they were ducking him doesn't make a lot of sense. Joshua apparently sent an offer in 2019 that was refused.

Lots of guys have struggled to land big fights though which makes me skeptical. Ajagba, Hrgovic and Hunter have all failed to land fights with Parker, Joshua, and Fury. Are they all being ducked?

I think it's more likely that Ortiz had poor management and didn't offer a lot of money

 

He ended up losing to fury and then fury handled Whyte with ease.

 

Exactly.

Fury fought a guy with no wins in boxing. (Barely won.)

Joshua fought a guy with no wins and 1 loss in boxing and a YouTuber who lost to Fury's cruiserweight half-brother. And Joshua went six rounds with the YouTuber.

Usyk is defending the world heavyweight title against a 37-year-old guy with 1 win in boxing.

But they're still harping on Wilder (who is older than all of them, and at the end of his career), for fighting a tuneup with a 24-5 journeyman pro, who he dominated and stopped.

The last time Wilder fought someone with one win was 2009.

Wilder never fought anyone with NO wins.

 

None of this matters to some people

 

Any thread that mentions deontay turns into a witch-hunt

 

Chisora has 13 losses and some gidt wins, yet he would be Wilder's best win. Pathetic.

 

Usyk wants to fight Wilder because he is a "name" but an easy win. Also because he is American, even though almost no Americans know who Wilder is.