Who Does The Best Against Prime Ali? (Poll Included)

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Which Fighter?

  1. Oleksandr Usyk

    10 vote(s)
    13.5%
  2. Mike Tyson

    10 vote(s)
    13.5%
  3. Joe Louis

    4 vote(s)
    5.4%
  4. Rocky Marciano

    6 vote(s)
    8.1%
  5. Joe Frazier

    22 vote(s)
    29.7%
  6. Vitali Klitschko

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Wladimir Klitschko

    7 vote(s)
    9.5%
  8. Lennox Lewis

    11 vote(s)
    14.9%
  9. Evander Holyfield

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  10. Tyson Fury

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  1. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he can’t keep a limited Sam Peter at bay with his jab he’s not keeping Ali away with it
     
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    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So in your mind Ali wins by walking through Wlad's punches, forcing him on the back foot, and then knocking him out? Sounds legit
     
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    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would he do that when he could just pepper Wlad to a UD or late retirement which is what is mostly likely to happen.
    Ali has better stamina, great head movement and reflexes, Wlad doesn’t present any real style problem for him, all he has is size but that’s not going to be enough
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Something else happened to Peter during Wlad’s actual prime.
     
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    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ive seen it said before that Wlad’s prime was in his mid to late 30’s, physically it’s impossible but if we say this is where his mental savvy and boxing skills blended with his youth and it was his ‘prime’ then perhaps.
    Against a prime Ali I don’t see how it helps him, he’s got even less mobility to deal with Ali who isn’t going to come straight at him like Peter did.
    Again Ali just stays away from his big punches and peppers him to a UD. Nobody beats a prime Ali, particularly not a stand up boxer like Wlad, and most definitely not a 35 yr old stand up boxer like Wlad
     
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    Yet Wlad vs. Haye is the closest thing to this match ever happening.
     
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    You compare Haye with Ali?
     
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    Yes, similar size and handspeed, probably more power.
     
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    Hmm yes very similar, Hayes highlights beating a 36 year old Valuev, 38 year old Ruiz and 39 year old Harrison. Not exactly similar credentials to Ali.
    Might as well compare Klitschko with the local hard nut down the pub
     
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    So the only reason Wlad won is size?
     
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    Yeah. He actually fought and beat guys who were Wlad’s size or bigger.
     
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    The only champions I give a good chance of beating a prime Ali at his best would be in this order and at their best:
    Lewis
    Usyk
    Fury
    Klitchcos
    Holyfield
    Tyson
    Holmes
    Bowe
    The only favorites would be Lewis, Usyk and Fury / the rest are even money or slight underdogs.
     
  13. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali beat Terrell who was Wlad’s size and won more or less every round. Who cares?
    Funny that you put so much emphasis on title reigns when it comes to Foreman’s place in history, but use David Haye as an indicator of why Wlad would beat Ali.
     
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    212.5 pounds
     
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    So now weight is the biggest factor ? Nearly all of the best heavyweights were around 210-225.
     
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