Strangest thing you have seen in a fight

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    El Maromero fought in a tutu. And won via KO I recall, hilariously.
     
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    Six Heads apparently ran to the locker room to take a dump in the middle of a fight.
     
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    Speaking which (sort of, anyway, depending on which excuse you want to subscribe to):

    Roberto Duran, the savage animal of a warrior, quitting like a dog vs. Ray Leonard ranks for me as the strangest thing I’ve witnessed in boxing.

    You would have never convinced me, nor probably anyone else, that Duran would quit without any apparent injury or debilitation in the middle of a fight — literally total surrender to let go of the welterweight title for basically no good or understandable reason.
     
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    You’d think these guys would be wearing Depends on the ring. The cost:benefit is definitely favorable.
     
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    He quit cos he knew he wasn’t at his best and was going to be humiliated whatever happened so just said **** you.
    is that on him ? Yes
     
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    I’ve told this story before here, I obviously didn’t see it but the strangest thing I’ve heard of was my grandad telling me when he used to box that he hit someone and their eyeball popped out and was literally dangling from the ‘string’ attaching it to the socket.
    I’ve just googled it to see if I can find another example of it happening and can’t see anything. So I assume it must be pretty rare/strange for it to happen
     
  7. Saintpat

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    The Roberto Duran Defense League will give you a list of losses a mile long where Duran is supposed to get a pass because ‘he wasn’t at his best.’

    Yet only Ray Leonard made him quit under those circumstances. Hmmm.

    Duran and Mike Tyson are the most Goldilocks fighters of all time — they only win when everything is ‘just right’ and otherwise we’re supposed to pretend either that they won or the fights never happened, lol. Like every time they won the opponent was 100% … nobody bothers to check to see if maybe they have an excuse.
     
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    Ha ha
    Well I understand what you’re saying.
    But consider that Leonard was genuinely a supreme fighter, any welterweight even Robinson is going to have problems with him.
    Duran by all accounts trained his arse off for the first fight, had something to prove, and went out and proved it.
    He gets out of shape, perhaps even knows in the back of his mind that that kind of motivation and prime exceptional performance is gone forever (Duran defence league), and comes in sub par for the rematch.
    Now it can be debated whether he was really sub par, but to me if you just look at his face he looks 10 years older than the first fight, he just doesn’t look right.
    He has a reasonable amount of success but he clearly can’t cut Leonard off like he did in Montreal, that guys gone for good.
    That Leonard looks stronger in the clinches should speak volumes here.
    The Duran of Montreal would feint Leonard mid-step while he’s doing his clowning around and get to him .
    He, to any seasoned observer (Duran defence league) just doesn’t have it in him in New Orleans, that ability has gone.
    He just said **** you I’m not taking a beating from a guy I know I beat fair and square and won’t let you make a mockery of me not being able to do it now.

    Personally, I think Duran at 29 had one chance and one chance only to beat a prime Ray Leonard. If he’d done so at 27-28, he maybe could have done it again, maybe. But he had to be at his absolute limit to beat him and would never have beaten him again after Montreal IMO.
    They both knew after a round how it was going to go and Duran just had enough, he’d proved to the world he was better (Duran defence league) and that was that, he wasn’t taking being made a fool out of and would rather just quit.
    Anyway, that’s how I see it.
     
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    Yeah but after one round with Thomas Hearns you cannot convince me he did’t realize ‘well I’m not going to win this one’ … yet he didn’t quit.

    After Wilfred Benitez schooled him for 10-12 rounds, by that point he knew he wasn’t going to win … yet he didn’t quit.

    I think once Ray had recovered from the first fight with Duran, he made up his mind he was going to beat Roberto’s ass and that Duran was never going to beat him again. And Ray didn’t just beat him … he owned him. He clowned him. He kept the receipt and handed out a humiliating defeat in return.

    I personally do not think Roberto’s win in Montreal is in any way greater than Ray’s complete mental domination of Duran in New Orleans. He so thoroughly got in Roberto’s head that he made him quit when he wasn’t even injured. That, to me, is total domination.
     
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    BS. My profession is examining eyes. At worst, an eye would bulge out of the orbit (like a pug’s eye) and pop back in.
     
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    Kermit Cintron leap frogging out of the ring against Paul Williams

    The referee counting up to 20 with Freddie Norwood vs Derrick Gainer

    John Meekins getting knocked down by Mohammed Kowoya just as the referee jumps in to stop the fiight where Meekins was simultaneously put on the canvas yet somehow winning by TKO.
     
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    When referee Ron Lipton stopped the fight in the 7th round between Prince Charles Williams and Merqui Sosa and declared it a draw because both men took too much punishment.

    When James Butler sucker punched Richard Grant after losing his fight on a decision. Max Kellerman would go on to insist Butler should not lose his license and livelihood only to have Butler kill his brother with a hammer later on.
     
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    Duran of Hearns and Benitez was the older shorter man up against two men who were phenoms in their own way.
    Hearns was possibly the best Junior Middle to ever live.
    Hearns was in his absolute prime but Duran started at Bantamweight and was pushing 33.
    Benitez found his groove and had youth height and reach over Duran at 154. And while he won clearly it wasn’t exactly a domination.

    Benitez and Hearns are fights that Duran should lose. That’s the difference. Leonard v Duran at 147 is a fight that Duran wins when they’re at their bests, that’s why he quit.

    personally I don’t believe Ray ever dominated Duran mentally at all, he was beaten fair and square by a smaller man who should have won by a much bigger margin in Montreal, they tried to rob him on the cards but he still won.

    Being Injured and being palpably not at your best are very different.
    I’ve heard it said Leonard wasn’t prime yet when they fought, it’s a nonsense, he only ever had 12 fights after Montreal. He was as good as he was ever going to be, Duran was the better fighter and both at their absolute bests Duran beats him every time.
    Leonard has even admitted as much that he wanted Duran when he was blown up and not at his best and him and his fans seem to see it as some kind of a flex.
     
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    I think there was some weird rule about a twenty count when fouled for the Norwood fight.
     
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    Has to be Holyfield getting his ears bitten