Joe Frazier (post Foreman) Vs Razor Ruddock (PreTyson Fights)?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    So this is Joe Frazier straight after The first Foreman fight.

    Joe is still dangerous but diminished , multiple kds , confidence shaker.
    Still has elite left hook, non stop pressure.

    Facing Ruddock BEFORE the Tyson fight s, which took something out of him for sure.

    So... who's winning?
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think Ruddock would be a slight favorite.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I think he possibly could.
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d pick Frazier to beat Ruddock. Ruddock had the punching power to hurt Frazier, but didn’t have Foreman’s ring generalship, so I have a hard time seeing Ruddock keeping Frazier from sticking to him like a second skin.
     
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  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With that timeline, Ruddock does have a small chance. But, earlier Joe beats ANY version of Ruddock.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always thought Ruddock is a dangerous opponent for Frazier.

    His "Smash" is a good weapon to catch the smaller bobbing and weaving Frazier.

    Ruddock also has a big size advantage over Frazier and whilst Frazier is far greater than Ruddock. Stylistically he never beat a big imposing puncher like Ruddock.
     
  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Earlier Joe wrecks Razor,tho there's always a danger against a banger like him.
     
  8. newurban99

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    Bad stylistic matchup for Joe. But Razor was inconsistent and not very adaptable. He didn't throw his right hand nearly as often as his left. It's when he'd throw the right when he'd be open for Frazier's left hook. He'd have to use his right hand mainly as a distraction. But not too often. I think he stands a good chance when Joe's body and skills are declining. Clearly Razor has the power to knock anyone out including Frazier.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Frazier by UD. Joe may have to get off the canvas to do it. Ruddock would be up and down like an elevator. He was tough though and probably goes the distance.
     
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  10. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier clobbers him.
     
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  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't see Ruddock's anemic punch output working against this guy. He needs lots of room to throw that left hand and Joe would not be on the outside for it.
    The other big factor would be the defense and straight up style of Razor. His defense overall.

    I think he gets drilled by viscious left hooks to the body and the head when Frazier is bobbing and weaving and then springs up with those left hooks of his. I think Ruddock is standing there and just watching.
     
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  12. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah.. Gotta look at Joe's heart, not his height.
     
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