Which celebrated victory aged badly?

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  1. Jakub79

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    Basically every single one of Tyson's wins in the 80s, including the Holmes fight and especially the Spinks fight.
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

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  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the most amazing thing about Ruiz beating Joshua is not that he could beat him, it's how ineffective Ruiz's career has been since, and how Joshua has taken advantage of opportunities and fighting guys and staying in the scene as Ruiz disappeared. This is a case of Ruiz matchmaking or promoter or something just blowing a good thing.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Douglas, Sanders, and Moorer were kind of the same compared to the guys they beat.

    Ruiz pretty clearly showed that he was more interested in living comfortably off a huge bag rather than making a top ten all time list when he showed up to the rematch looking like he was suffering from an endocrine disorder.
     
  5. KirkK

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    Don’t agree. Great upset. Oliver McCall was Lewis’ version of same.
     
  6. KirkK

    KirkK New Member Full Member

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    Uh no. Ruiz has always been a tough out who he’s doesn’t always take care of himself. Can’t diminish that win.
     
  7. Cobra33

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    Lou could punch and dropped iron chin Virgil Hill with the same punch so I'm not understanding the big deal because outside of that Lou got dominated in that bout almost losing every single round.
     
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  8. Cobra33

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    Jones got robbed of the gold medal in the Olympics Tarver did not. Antonio was in the amateurs till he was TWENTY EIGHT years old Roy turned pro at twenty.
     
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  9. NoNeck

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    Del Valle: zero significant knockout wins

    Tarver: forget knockouts, he ended the careers of Chris Johnson and Lincoln Carter, and ended the primes of Eric Harding and Roy Jones.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    You act like being in the ams until 28 makes an am career worse. You got that backwards.
     
  11. Cobra33

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    Tarver was in the amateurs LONGER then Jones was and still ended up going to the Olympics ONCE just like Roy did. And he still couldn't reach the finals.
     
  12. Cobra33

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    You have absolutely no idea what your talking about and it shows. Eric Harding couldn't stay in the gym and liked to run the streets Tarver didn't finish anyone off because Harding was a part time boxer basically. He fought what four times in FOUR YEARS after the Tarver rematch.
    And if you look at Hardings record even when he was coming up as an unbeaten prospect there are times when he's inactive for years and there is a reason for that.
    Lou has a knockout percentage of over 60% I assure you he could punch. Matter of fact I believe that both Lou and Antonio have the same exact number of knock outs .
    There was a reason why most top trainers did not want anything to do with Antonio when he turned pro and it had nothing to do with Jones even though Antonio always tried that BS blaming Roy for this or that.
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    Roy Jones Jr won the Val Barker Trophy for most outstanding boxer in the Olympics … without winning gold.

    Literally the collective wisdom of the judges and officials was that him getting robbed was so outrageous that they ‘overturned’ it by naming him the absolute best guy.

    You cannot find a 10-second clip of Roy Jr in the final that you can make an intellectually honest argument that he lost, much less a round or the entire fight. It’s the most blatantly bad decision in the history of boxing imo.

    And if he had gotten a just decision and won gold, he would have won the Val Barker anyway.

    Tarver damned sure didn’t win any award for being best boxer at the Olympics, lol.

    Roy Jr >>>>>>>>>>>> Antonio Tarver.

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  14. NoNeck

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    He won gold at the World Championships (Olympic equivalent), gold at Pan Am, and bronze at the Olympics losing (officially at least) in a barnburner to Jirov who won the Val Barker trophy.

    Jones never even fought in Pan Am or the World Championships.

    This isn't even a debate.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    You sound butthurt about an am career that was flatly worse.