Rico Verhoeven vs Oleksandr Usyk official for WBC Heavyweight Championship — May 23 in Egypt (DAZN)

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Who would win?

  1. Rico Verhoeven

    10.6%
  2. Oleksandr Usyk

    89.4%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    As I've said many times before, although it really shouldn't need to be explained. Extensive amateur careers of 300 or more fights, even a lot less than that, puts a ton of wear and tear and mileage on your body and in the amateurs you're not fighting unskilled bums, E, F and G levels, or even fighters who have no idea how to actually fight, like prospects in the pros so often are for the first 20 or so fights of their career which FTR is a huge percentage of their careers, often 50% or more of their careers or roughly 25% of it for those with longer careers.

    You're fighting the best fighters in your city, region, country, continent, or the world who actually know how to fight and Usyk has been fighting at the elite level continuously amateur and pro for over 20 years against the best in Europe and the world sans his first 9 pro fights.

    Even being a member of the national squad you're going to be sparring constantly against a very high level of sparring partners, whether it be ones from your country or other countries.

    And he's also notorious for training like a maniac and he trains daily year round even when out of camp regardless of whether it's boxing training or not. That alone is going to put a ton of wear and tear on your body

    It's comical how we keep hearing how Belly and AJ are done or well past their best, and I'm not even talking about people saying this now people have been saying this for years, despite them having a combined total of 149 fights amateur and pro and Usyk being older than both

    AJ
    33 pro
    43 amateur

    Greedy Belly
    38 pro
    35 amateur

    But Usyk is supposedly still in his prime and fresh at 39 y/o after having 370 + fights amateur and pro and having been boxing at the elite level for over 20 years and fighting way more top and elite opponents than both amateur and pro and whilst up at HW ones way bigger and heavier than him and his camps sparring much bigger guys, especially at his age with all that decades of wear and tear on his body, will take a huge toll on his body too :facepalm:


    You don't have to take my word for it you can just listen to what what fighters who had extensive amateur careers will tell you from their own mouths in the numerous interviews I've posted and none of them had near as extensive ones as Usyk

    You can also just look no further than amateurs who burned out in the amateurs who way too early in the pros due to said too extensive amateur careers.

    Dave Allen said the other day that he felt Makhmudov was well past his best when he lost to him and that from the tapes he studied was a much better fighter in the amateurs

    As I've been telling your all for years, Usyk has been past his prime for a long time and has slowed down a lot. He might still be the best in the world but he's a much lesser version of his former self in terms of speed, reaction times, reflexes, agility, sharpness, fluidity, and accuracy even. He
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    Stephen ''Breadman'' Edwards

    ''Most prevalent is his age. Usyk is 38 and Itauma is 20. That’s 18 years of wear and tear that Usyk has on him that Itauma does not. In my experiences in the gym, there is a vast difference in reaction time with that much of an age gap, even if the older fighter is better.''
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Amateur boxing is not tiddlywinks

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    Key arguments for why amateur boxing may not be safer than professional boxing include:

    Frequency of Head Trauma: Amateur boxing is often described as a "sprint" with high-intensity rounds that prioritise landing a high volume of punches for points. This can result in a higher frequency of subconcussive blows compared to the more paced, "marathon-like" nature of professional bouts.

    Controversial Role of Headgear:
    Increased Target Size: Some argue headgear makes the head a larger target, potentially leading to more landed punches.
    False Sense of Security: It may encourage riskier, more aggressive behaviour by providing a perceived safety cushion.

    Rotational Force and Vision: Headgear can impair peripheral vision, making it harder to see and avoid incoming strikes, and the added weight may increase rotational forces on the brain during impact. These factors led the International Boxing Association (IBA) to ban headgear for male senior amateurs in 2013.

    Tournament Intensity: Elite amateur boxers often compete in tournaments where they may fight up to five times in five days. This rapid succession of bouts may not allow adequate recovery time between repeated head impacts.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk should win. If he lost, would be a bigger upset than Douglas beating Tyson
     
  4. Drstillhammer

    Drstillhammer Member Full Member

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    Its about time for a dutch HW-Champ.
     
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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotta agree with you there mate. Father time catches up with everyone, and we haven't seen a prime Usyk since his cruiserweight days. Moving into heavyweight was a bit easier for him as it allowed him to slow down a bit (because lets face it, the majority of the HW division are big and slow).

    He should have retired after Fury 2, and is likely to catch a loss soon if he keeps it up.
     
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  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never competed in boxing myself, but had plenty of sparring session with and without headgear. I can confirm taking more injuries and shots from wearing the stuff than without. I found it messed with my senses a bit as well.
     
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  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Should've just fought Wilder if he wanted an easy money fight. At least Wilder would've meant a little legacy-wise having Ws against Fury, AJ and Wilder.
     
  8. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk rightly has to be seen as the massive favourite in this bout as he is the Boxer fighting a Kick-boxer in Rico,just like Rico would be the massive favourite if he was fighting Usyk in a kick-boxing match. The fight is in Egypt maybe the African curse kicks in ? Foreman a big favourite lost to Ali , Coetzee a big favourite lost to Page , Lewis a big favourite lost to Rahman .
     
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  9. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    No....42/1 ( Douglas ) - 10/1 ( Verhoeven )
     
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  10. heerko koois

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    :ARMS1:
     
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  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's more down to bookies being far more stingy with their odds than anything else.
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Wilder turned him down to have the weirdly homo-erotic donnybrook with Chisora.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    So I watched more of Verhoeven specifically with an eye to his abilities as a boxer. I have to say he's not too bad. He has a nice jab, and steps into his punches. He carries a lot of power and he shows a lot of guts when hurt. He's no cupcake.

    Where I think Usyk will beat him is with his feet. Verhoeven is kind of stiff and moves in straight lines. He has little head movement and little lateral movement. That doesn't generally matter too much in his fights because Rico is kind of a big battleship coming to demolish his opponent ... the other guy needs to worry about getting tagged himself above all. But that's part of what is going to make Rico vulnerable in boxing. A big part of his game is his outstanding and flexible kicks. He can do it all, and even though many of his KOs are by punches, its often a kick that opens the doors.

    If Usyk has anything left in the tank, and I think he does, he will treat him as a stiffer version of AJ and show him angles all the time. I think Verhoeven will need to bring a protractor to the ring because he's going to be measuring angles he never saw before. Usyk UD, I think Rico is tough enough to see the close.
     
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  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those are ridiculous odds....
     
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