The myth of the "Prime Deontay Wilder"

Don't fall for the trap mate, he's on my ignore list for a reason.

 

I will attempt to answer it if/when I can make sense of it.

Like everybody else, I don't get what you are talking about.

 

Joshua went over there to try and tap into the American market. Population 350 million. Plenty of green backs. But he ended up on his back.

 

Wrong, look at his KO of Brezeale vs AJ's, it took AJ loads of punches to get him down and it wasn't a clean KO, Wilder landed one bomb and it almost killed him, how can you look at that and say he doesn't have power?

 

You wrote about Joshua not fighting in America again after the Ruiz loss so I asked, who as the A side was there.
It's not a trick question, you just for some reason feel uncomfortable trying to answer after I asked you about your comment.
Wilder wasn't an option, he had beaten Ruiz. Miller was out of action, so who were you thinking he should be travelling for.
Just a straight answer of which opponents

I've asked which opponents and you are trying to do everything but answer that.
He got exposure facing J Paul in a nothing fight, so back to my original question.
Which opponents?

 

Well maybe you should read the whole conversation rather than just jump in.
I will help you out

Mick in amongst his post wrote -
Ruiz the hand picked opponent for Joshua’s big American debut being the fighter who made Joshua quit in 2019 and took his 0 and his belts from him, so bad that Joshua never fought in America again !

So I asked -
Who do you feel Joshua was supposed to travel to America to face?
He was the "A" side and challenged Ruiz in a neutral location
Who as the A side was he likely going to travel for?

I've asked which opponents and you are trying to do everything but answer that.
He got exposure facing J Paul in a nothing fight, so back to my original question.
Which opponents?

 

Joshua has had ample opportunity to go back and fight any opponent he chooses in the years since the Ruiz loss,he was the A side draw with the biggest marketability for years but he hasn’t ! What’s uncomfortable about answering that,it’s common sense ! You know exactly what I’m saying,since being forced to quit whilst standing in the corner 7 year ago he has not tried to redeem himself by going back to America and fighting a Professional Heavyweight Fighter,something still to this day he not has done ! Joshua has had 10 fights in the seven years since the Ruiz loss I’m pretty sure he could have made a fight in America had he so wanted to. Both Wilder and Miller unable to fight Joshua for 7 year, why ? Hunter Franklin Jennings all options for a return to America .

 

Why didn't you just answer with you couldn't name an opponent?
Once again. Against who?
You obviously can't answer.
You made a comment and when asked, couldn't give a straight answer
Don't bother responding with another post not naming anyone

 

I think you will find I have named opponents,internet crashed and I lost my reply directly back to you as well as other info and typed it back out, as you can see !

 

I'll give that a like
Like with yourself. They are straight forward questions
Not trick questions or traps. You obviously feel you fell into one though.
Don't blame me if you and mick cant give an answer to a post

 

Beg your pardon
I haven't seen the list of opponents
Would you list them all again please

 

Wilder was busy losing to Fury for a few years. And said no to a HUGE payday to face Fury instead at the time.
They were going to meet another time, but Wilder lost to Parker remember?

But here's a proper question. Where would those guys make more money in an AJ fight? In the US where he's not as big a star, or in the UK where he is.

 

Wilder and Joshua both ducked each other,Wilder ducked to fight Fury to try for a better deal than the 15 million single fight deal offered should he have won and Joshua ducked to fight Povetkin. Hearn said the Showtime deal was bogus (50 million first fight with 35 million for the rematch) but then admitted he had not asked for proof of funds. Barry Hearn after the Wilder v Fury draw citing Fury being robbed said that is why they had not accepted the deal. Both Wilder and Joshua to there credit both admit ducking each other for different options and it’s well documented . Then when it finally looked like happening Parker derailed it . Joshua is a big star in Britain but why do you say he’s not a big star in America ?
https://talksport.com/boxing/461328...ntay-wilder-highlights-dillian-whyte-rematch/
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...-wilder-fight-insists-warren/a/115514931.html
https://boxingnewsonline.net/news/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-rob-mccracken/
https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/08/barry-hearn-urges-anthony-joshua-reject-deontay-wilder-fight-7530743/

 

Ducked each other? Wilder was offered a three fight deal worth $100mil.

"Somebody in Anthony Joshua camp didn't want Wilder fight, insists Warren"
The old reliable "somebody" source.

So, back to my question. Where does someone make the most money facing AJ? In the US or in the UK? Some of you dogging on Bailey (And believe me, I've been there with that). But asking why AJ hasn't fought in the US since Ruiz is a useless question IMO. These guys fight where they are the most marketable.

 

Barry Hearn himself urged Joshua not to take the Wilder fight. Warren was involved in the Showtime offer as he was the negotiation liaison,he confirmed the contract and validation of the offer as he was acting as the intermediary and confidant of Wilder management. Why was the Ruiz v Joshua fight (Miller at first) held in America ? It was Joshua’s first fight outside Britain and his first fight for dazn,dazn being the streaming service that was broadcasting Joshua it was there goal of expanding his brand and there presence in the American market,it was all about marketing and building revenue and we all know how that went. The fight being streamed on dazn as part of there $19.99 monthly deal and shown on UK Sky box office for £19.95. So it was deemed more marketable by dazn to hold the fight in America to try and tap into the lucrative American PPV market. Like I said both Joshua and Wilder have ducked each other over the years and both admit is to there credit. The dazn 100 million offer to Wilder was for the same amount of money that Joshua and his team had refused from the showtime offer (80 million) the extra 20 million being for the Brezeale fight and then 40 million for a first and second fight with Joshua,Showtimes offer being 50 million first fight 30 million second fight.As for getting more money for other fighters do we really expect ReMatchroom to pay more for them to fight in Britain when we know what deal Ruiz had been tied into and why Whyte had refused the rematch at that time !
Edit to say there was at least two different options put to Wilder for the dazn deal,one also alleging a 120 million fight deal