Ali of Berbick vs Frazier of Jumbo Cummings

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Smokeless Joe or Listless Muhammad?

  1. Ali decision

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  2. Ali KO

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  3. Frazier decision

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  4. Frazier KO

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  5. Draw

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  6. What kind of sadist even thinks this up?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I try and watch that at least once a week...
     
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  2. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    I cannot think of a better, more appropriate response LOL!! (Seriously, that would have been a travesty to watch!!)
     
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  3. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    insomnia is a ***** hope you are better now pal
     
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  4. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Ali on points in a close fight. Both were a lot more hittable.

    Ali did actually win a few rounds against Berbick, but got outworked overall, and I do have Berbick beating Cummings, and very much most likely beats that version of Frazier too.

    Ali probably lands a few jabs, then holds, and Frazier doesn’t have the relentlessness or energy to get enough work off.
     
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  5. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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  6. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali obviously was seriously ill,overweight and looked like he belonged in a rocking chair. That said I did score the Berbick fight as a draw or 1 round win for Ali.It says a lot for how poor the heavyweight division was between 1979-83.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Again, Ali looked great against Berbick. The damage was already done. He had at least half a dozen good fights left in him, probably some sunset matches after that. Dude was still sparring into the early 1990's.

    Ali v Dokes
    Ali v Witherspoon
    Ali v Weaver
    Ali v Holmes 2

    We were robbed of these.
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Frazier had more left in the tank
    He would have beat Ali here
     
  10. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both were shot but Frazier surprisingly looked more far gone than Ali. Hence, I'd say Ali by boring, lackluster decision.
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I voted "What kind of sadist even brings this up."
     
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  12. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    Just the kind of quality heavyweight thread that BF is known for.

    Anyway Frazier looked worse against worse opposition than Ali did, Ali clearly. Though admittedly, I haven't seen Berbick - Ali as recently as I've seen Cummings - Frazier.
     
  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am thinking, with varyingtangible, this ends up in drawland.,