30 title defenses automatically becomes the greatest of all time ?

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe Louis has the most consecutive title defenses and the most title fights. Ali, Wlad and Holmes have come close but they fell short.

    But the talent pool is going to increase, that rise would probably be ubiquitous so there is no guarantee someone will beat Joe Louis's stats due to an equal increase in competition. But by logic, the best boxers that could exist will appear in the future due to sheer probability, theres a lot more time and opportunities in the future, the world will most likely become more globally connected and more technologically and methological advancements for training will appear.

    Context does matter, but in this scenario the champion is taking on all comers.

    Do you think we will ever see 30 title defenses at heavyweight ? Wilder had 10
     
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  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I don't think it can happen. The fact is that boxers just don't fight that often. There is a reasonable chance that if a man was a champ for a decade he would not make it to 30 title defenses.
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder was never lineal. His abc title isn’t real and never was.
     
  4. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    it will only matter if that 'someone' indeed has 30 Top Scalps as the champion and/or among a number of top fighters...

    I mean, there are many ABC Belt heroes, where every fight is for a title and the ones that weren't were just as great of a win.

    I still can't get my head around how people support & regurgitate such nonsense... Fight 'real' opponents who 'might' be actually capable of beating you, real fighters, contenders & champions.

    Then and only then, you might have an argument for such claims.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No. Thirty title defences would take 15 years. Even with a Tyson like rise, a fifteen year reign at HW isn't going to happen. It would certainly make the GOAT though, probably all time p4p number one contender too.
     
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  6. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    It could happen with the likes of another Tyson or this new killer Itauma, where someone gets a HW Title fight in say his 7 - 12th fight,

    then defends it 3 times a year in the modern manner where every fight a World title affair...

    it could be done like that, but just how many of proposed opponents would be considered 'Real' Top fighters...

    so even in Modern Terms it will likely NEVER Happen or be of any credible value... Long live the King(s).
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That isn't the modern way at all. Hardly anyone fights three title fights a year. It's far more likely for an established fighter to fight once a year.
     
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  8. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    yes, True, sad as it is.
     
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  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stop this nonsense that Wlad came close. His WBO defences is not comparable to actual title defences.

    With so few undisputed/lineal champions today and so few defences a year, no one is likely to get close to even Ali's 19 until this changes.
     
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  10. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People might call it a weak era though. We have seen this many times.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If a guy would fight the number one, twice a year, that would be one thing, but that rarely happens either. Usyk, for example, has ATG credibility and his next opponent is 1-0.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, must agree here. You can't just put a random strap on a fighter and call him The One. That's ridiculous and becoming a horrible habit, even here.
     
  13. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As always context would be required. It would depend on the quality of opposition and whether he was widely recognised as the champion or a meaningless ABC titlest.

    No, I don't think we'll ever see 30 x consecutive title defences at HW, either of the title or an alphabet strap.
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depending on how you see Wlad's status in the division he had either 18, 13 or 11 defenses. Still a lot. And he did beat 15 Top 10 guys over the course of his career. Only Ali, Louis and Holmes beat more.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I count three successful defences.