Who was greater: Ken Norton or Vitali Klitschko

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MaccaveliMacc, Apr 30, 2026.


Who should be rated higher?

  1. Ken Norton

    24 vote(s)
    40.7%
  2. Vitali Klitschko

    35 vote(s)
    59.3%
  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When someone sends a long response to me I feel the need to respect that and do the same but fair enough
     
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You really need to grow up and stop talking like an edgy jock while actually being a lame armchair hipster.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The other toss said he'd **** on someone's head a day ago and has been insulting people left, right and center. But hey, he's pro clits lets not gob off at him.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But you're the one who referred to Vitali as a 'Rock Em Sock Em Robot'.

    Which carries a certain, quite priceless poetic irony.
     
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  5. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eastern European boxers vs heavyweights from the 70s never fails.
     
  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali vs Lewis is an exception. Most of Vitali's fights are snoozefests. Wlad at least had punching power than made his fights interesting.
     
  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali missed 715 punches against Johnson. And Johnson was no Young.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    What were the scores?
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali of course won but he looked terrible.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It sounds like your argument is that Vitali would look terrible against Young while winning widely.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Norton looked good against fighters with less than tipping point power - Ali and Holmes - I thought Young beat him but much of the same style. Still Norton only beat Ali once out of 3 and lost to Holmes.

    Shavers KO1 and Foreman ko in 2 highlighted Nortons weakness = he could not back up, and he folded when hit with tipping point power - lesser fighters like Jose Garcia exposed it when he was younger and when he aged a bit, fighters like Scott LeDoux dropped him 2X and then Cooney KO 1- Ledoux was not a puncher but he backed Ken up- Ken was old but could only fight going forward.

    Vitali was dominating Chris Byrd until injury, and he was ahead vs Lennox until cut stoppage. Vitali gained confidence after Lennox and ko'd highly acclaimed Kirk Johnson in 2 - I favored him in a rematch with Lennox, and I guess so did Lennox because he turned down some very large money.

    Vitali went on to beat some very good fighters - the best available that his brother didn't beat but still overall quite an impressive career.
     
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  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm impressed with your self-confidence in your wrong opinion - where did you buy your looking glass? :)
     
  14. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dominated Chris Byrd? I don't think so. A lot of revisionist history going on.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I had it only 5-4 to Vitali up and until the stoppage when I scored it a few years ago.

    Alot of people seem to push that narrative when it's not true.

    It was a nip and tuck tactical fight in which neither man was hurt.

    Competitive fight IMO.

    I know punchstats are not always accurate but the stats also suggest it was competitive aswell only 8 punches separated the 2 fighters.
     
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