Ortiz 1 Ortiz 2 Chisora Stiverne 1 Duhaupas Helenius Breazeale Arreola Washington Szpilka Many believe that Wilder's most impressive result was his controversial draw with a 27-0 Fury. Wilder's record is significantly better than his American contemporaries, including top 10-ish HW's in Jennings, Hunter, Miller and Ruiz. The best names Wilder beat (Ortiz x2, Chisora, Stiverne) would be very competitive in a round robin with the best non-Wilder Americans. It is interesting to consider how little crossover there is with Joshua's record: Ortiz x2, Stiverne, Chisora, Fury x3, Zhang. Helenius and Breazeale are also probably top 10 wins on Joshua's resume.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/deontay-wilder-top-ten-victories.731726/ Last vote tally here, before the Chisora fight, was... Ortiz 1 8 Ortiz 2 8 Stiverne1 8 Duhaupas 8 Washington 8 Breazeale 8 Szpilka 8 Helenius 8 Arreola 7 Molina 3 Harrison 2 Liakovich 2 Scott 2 Stiverne II 1 I put Chisora #1, so mine would be, respecting the previous tally and adding Chisora at the top... Del Boy Chisora Ortiz 1 Ortiz 2 Stiverne1 Duhaupas Washington Breazeale Szpilka Helenius Arreola
Uh.... It is vindication of sorts. He is not, and never was, one of the "three kings." The big wins aren't there. But, he now has three wins over the top ten of the post Klit era. The list would be something like, Fury Joshua Parker Ruiz Whyte Wilder Chisora Hunter Povetkin (declining by this time) Ortiz (never had the big wins to equal the "bogeyman" hype) It shows he was there in the mix. Had things panned out differently he might have done better. I'm actually hoping he gets another good one. I have no hard feeling against him, and would like to see him redeemed.
I agree it was a very good win, probably above Stiverne given context. Wilder was on much worse form going in, was the underdog, was fighting away in a partisan arena, had the officials firmly against him, but still won quite handily in the end, doing so in a way that virtually no one thought he could via 12 round decision, outslugging Chisora in a war. I rate Wilder more highly ofc, he has made his mark on HW history more than anyone outside Usyk, Fury or Joshua in the era. Ruiz, Parker and Whyte won't be making the HoF, whereas Wilder is a lock: https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/deontay-wilder-future-hall-of-famer.714599/ There is still time for significant change. If Fury-Joshua takes place, that could boost or diminish Wilder.
Like I said, I hope he can actually build on it. Joshua is booked for his next two, so he ought to target Ruiz, who wants to get back in it, and is a winnable fight for him, or Whyte. Add a couple more names from the era.
I would not be angry if Ruiz made the HoF but there is no chance he will. Buster Douglas isn't in there, so Ruiz has no chance. Usyk, Fury, Wilder and Joshua get in but I seriously doubt they make it 5. And if you let Ruiz in, it opens a can of worms with Parker.
I agree that Whyte is likely too shot for it to mean anything but he is 2.5 years younger than Wilder, which balances it somewhat. If Whyte beats Chisora then Wilder-Whyte is a legitimate fight. Ruiz is younger still, 4 years younger than Wilder and wasn't bad against Miller, who was considered better than Ruiz prior to the Joshua upset. Ruiz can have a tune up and there would be no problem.
None of those guys parallel Ruiz. The closest is obviously Douglas, and beating prime Tyson is considered a bigger upset. If Douglas isn't in and there are already 4 hall of fame HW's in the era, Ruiz just isn't going to get in. He's also spent most of his prime years eating tacos on the sidelines and if he makes a comeback of any substance, he will likely lose again.
Is decisioning a shot Chisora really a better win then stopping a slightly past prime Arreola? Not arguing just genuinely wondering. That Arreola went on to years later give Ruiz good work and drop him if I remember correctly. Im not sure why Im ranking Chisora over Arreola tbh.
Beating a 43 year old Chisora, in his 50th a final fight, is considered "very good." That sums up Wilder's career in a nutshell.