Inoue out of #1 p4p discussions after the Junto fight

It is relevant because many often cite Inoue being this tiny little guy who came up from 108 all the way to 122, 5 divisions and 14lbs in total, being one of the main reasons why he should ranked #1 over Usyk whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that

1. Inoue turned pro at 19 when he was still growing and Usyk turned pro 2 months before his 27th birthday

2. Even though Inoue is campaigning in the 5th division from the one he started out at and Usyk only the 2nd from the one he started out at, Inoue is generally facing fighters his size, a few pounds heavier, sometimes 5lbs heavier, and the 2 opponents he's fought who held the largest weight advantage over him (that we're aware of) weighed 7lbs and 13lbs more respectively and the later was only once in his career and that fighter is not a big puncher albeit if someone is that much heavier than you their power will be magnified

Inoue isn't a small 122 pounder by any stretch of the imagination and he never looks undersized at 122

3. People act like Usyk was 200lbs at birth but when he was the same age as Inoue was when he turned pro he was campaigning at 165 in the amateurs with same day weigh ins and he's fighting guys who weigh between 233-280lbs now, 240lbs or more for all bar one of his HW fights.

He actually is fighting giants who are much bigger than him and they're all murderous or massive punchers and even Belly who is not consider a massive puncher hits very hard when he wants to and obviously that power will be magnified against someone who weighs 40-55lbs less than him.

Yes, Usyk's obviously way bigger himself when he was the same age as Inoue was when he tuned pro but from 19 y/o Usyk has come up from 165 and to just ignore the fact he was way older when he turned pro than Inoue was to push this giant slaying narrative in favour of Inoue is disingenuous and even more so when even if people want to ignore that Usyk is still fighting giants who are way bigger than him everytime he steps foot in a ring, who are huge punchers or murderous punchers, who are all younger or much younger than him sans Chisora, and he's been beating them all in their backyards or on the road, and he's still doing so at 39 y/o when well past his prime and is one of the oldest HW champions ever, the oldest undisputed HW champion ever, and I believe he's the 2nd oldest P4P#1 ranked fighter ever

It's considered extremely unfair for Inoue to fight someone like Twink who weighs like 10lbs more than him max and he were to lose at 34 y/o people who say he was old and past his prime but if Usyk were to lose to a way bigger and heavier, much or way younger savage puncher at 39-40 + so many will act like he was still in his prime

 

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Thanks you do too and I don't have a problem with anyone having Inoue #1 now

I'm not saying it's anyone's fault just that it's disingenuous to ignore the fact that Usyk turned pro way later and that he was a fully grown man when he turned pro and Inoue was 19 y/o and still growing and even though Usyk was campaigning at 165 with same day weigh ins at the same age, so has gone from fighting fighters who weighed 165 to 233-280lbs in the same time frame, and has only moved up 1 division compared to 4 for Inoue he's still the one who is slaying giants and having to overcome huge size disadvantages not Inoue and he's doing so routinely and when well past his prime and or absolute prime

Even if size does have a much greater diminishing return at HW Inoue is generally fighting opponents his size, a few pounds heavier or 5-7lbs max heavier. Do you think Inoue fighting a 7lb heavier 0.5 inch longer reach TJ Doheny is even comparable to Usyk fighting giants like Belly, AJ, Dubois, Chisora, let alone in in their backyards or on the road and when past or well past his prime when he fought most of them?

Inoue has moved up 14lbs from when he turned pro and even in the 5th weight class from the one he started out at he's rehydrating as much as 14lbs and fighting opponents his size, a few pounds heavier, or 7lbs heavier and never looks undersized at 122 or vs any of his opponents really sans McDonnell at 118 who was much bigger than him with a 13lb weight advantage

To help me illustrate my point let's compare Inoue vs Loma the later of whom turned pro way later than Inoue instead of Inoue vs Usyk

Loma's a three-weight champion who moved up 2 divisions from 126-135 as opposed to Inoue being a four-weight one who moved up from 108-122 but Loma looked very noticeably undersized and tiny at 135 and was fighting fighters who were much or way bigger than him and the bare minimum amount of weight he was giving away would be more than the maximum Inoue has been giving away at 122 and he was usually giving away more, more or way more than that and it was plain to see all those guys were much or way bigger than him and it is deemed extremely unfair and not even a fair fight for Inoue to ever fight opponents that much bigger than him but Loma was doing so routinely.

How can Inoue move up 4 weight classes and still be fighting opponents his size, a few pounds heavier, or 5-7lbs max but Loma routinely fought ones who were much or way bigger than him when only moving up 2? Has Inoue been fighting opponents who weighed 10-15lbs more than him, or 20lbs heavier in Haney's case whilst very often giving away huge amount of reach too?

The answer is Loma tuned pro way later and 135 was only his third weight class because he turned pro way later and he dared to fight at a weight class he was extremely undersized at against much or way bigger fighters who were much or way bigger than him than Inoue's opponents at 122 generally are than Inoue. If Loma turned pro at the same age as Inoue he obviously would've turned pro at a much lower weight class than 126

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