Why is Joey 11 rounds Parker so overrated?

Whyte got chinned by Povetkin, and managed to scrape a win in the rematch when Povetkin was 42 and had COVID. Doesn't really bolster your argument. Ruiz also beat Ortiz and knocked him down 3 times while doing so, so again, doesn't bolster your argument. Povetkin was better in the Wlad era, and not much of a factor in the current one.

Parker beat Chisora twice, so even if you want to argue he got a gift in the first fight he still beat a younger version far more convincingly in the second.

Parker still beat Wilder as a massive underdog, and outboxed the guy who sparked Wilder in 5 (Zhang). "Joey 11" is better than "Naptime by 5 Wilder". Use all the triangle theory you want, it doesn't work when both fighters have already fought each other and the better man won.

 

Yet Parker still beat Wilder. Does that mean Whyte, Joyce and Povetkin are better than Wilder too?

 

It's safe to say Parker is better than Wilder, because they actually fought and Wilder got outclassed 12-0.

 

They're not remotely comparable.

 

Wilder being the greatest American HW champion of the 21st century is like boasting about having the biggest knob in a room full of women.

Ali was 39 vs a 27 year old opponent. An age gap of 12 years for Ali's final fight.

Wilder was 36 vs a 31 year old. An age gap of 5 years with both fighters remaining active.

So yeah, still not remotely comparable.

 

My bad on the age. Still nowhere near a 12 year age gap though.

It's also not Parker's fault Wilder didn't fight as often, but he was still active, in shape and training. Nor is it his fault that Wilder got sent to the shadow realm twice by Fury prior to their fight.

Comparing Ali to Wilder is just laughable and indefensible. I won't be addressing that, but feel free to make a poll to see if the forum agrees they're anywhere near comparable.

 

He's overrated like most boxers

 

Paint Dry Parker was the best nick name

Good HW of the era but over all an average skill set
Good at most things but has never excelled at one

Andy Lee has done a good job with him and he he put himself back in the picture with in hindsight some victories that were blessed with timing (no fault of his)

But my word before the recent run, he was so boring

 

Alot of opinions I think are down to speculation and beating an undefeated fighter.
It was a good win for Joshua winning a unification against a rival undefeated champion.
When losses happen, which can, fans on here tend to retrospectively downgrade a good win at that time.
It's probably similar to how many rate Fury's win over Wilder which was also a great win imo and considered so, possibly somewhat due to Wilder being an undefeated champion.
I imagine that win over Wilder would be more highly rated in comparison by some fans even though Parker went on to beat Wilder.
Parker has taken on so many good fighters that makes the potential of losses more possible and likely.

I would think Parker being considered a top 3 win for Joshua as a fair assessment
I would put Wladimir and Povetkin as greater wins. You could possibly argue Whyte at the time though think that could be debatable (see example above), maybe Ruiz as well
Very debatable but I think a good win wherever someone places it.

Credit to Parker having fought
Joshua
Whyte
Zhang
Wilder
Bakole
Wardley
Joyce
Ruiz

Other fights like
Chisora
H Fury
Takam
Meehan