Usyk says he will NOT retire after three fights...

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    After the 1st Joshua fight?

    He has a rematch clause that he was paid more to sign

    After the second fight he took care of the WBA mandatory then went in to the Fury fight again clearly as a B side with nowhere near the bargaining power of Fury
    If he wanted to win all the belts, he had to sign the contract which included the rematch

    Not sure where you think he would have been able to fit anything else in between that

    And commercially he was not considered "the man " and never has been
     
  2. Reuben Jones

    Reuben Jones Member Full Member

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    Foreman I agree. Holyfield definitely isn't 100%. He's perhaps not on the level of Bowe or Toney, but he's not great. There's been multiple videos of him slurring his speech. I remember watching a video a few years back, of this ex-boxer, I can't remember his name but he was a British guy, talking about how he met up with Holyfield, and they did some training/shadow-boxing together and he even lived with Holyfield and his family for a few weeks, or something like that. Can't remember the exact details. Anyway, after he left, he bumped into Holyfield again a few months later and Holyfield apparently had no idea who he was. The British guy said it was pretty scary.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Holy got better and I think someone mentioned he had therapy. He sounded awful at one point.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    News today is that Turkyi wants the Kabayel fight, and is sitting down with Usyk soon to make the pitch.

    In my mind, if Turkyi is putting up the money it's as good as done.
     
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  5. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whilst Turki has his cheque book out hopefully he also puts the money up for Benavidez v Bivol :cool:
     
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  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    I take it we will see

    Fury x 3
    Dubois x 3
    Joshua x 3
    Hell might as well throw in Chisora for a final final fight
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Maybe on the same card!
     
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  8. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's already said he won't fight "Greedy Belly" again. No one wants the DuBois trilogy. And he is helping coach AJ.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I guess you didn't see so I will let you in on the good news: Turkyi wants Kabayel and is going to sit down and make the pitch. I think with Turkyi willing to take a loss to get it made, the fight is as good as done.
     
  10. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    Usyk is a nice guy. Not a good dancer. Bit a nice guy.
     
  11. kirk

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    Its a bitter pill when you realize Usyk wont retire undefeated, losing at 39 years old to someone he would have beaten a few years ago, all because he doesn't know when/how to quit.

    Could have been one of the select few heavyweights (second? First since rocky like 60 years ago?) to retire as an undefeated champion. That would have been historic.
     
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  12. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    Mostly agree, but uh, AJ’s entire soul quit in the first Ruiz fight. Never forget.
     
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  13. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he will retire undefeated. There are only 4 or 5 real fights out there for him:

    Rico
    Kabayel
    Wardley (Obviously depends on his fight with DuBois)
    Itauma

    I'm not saying Benavidez would be an easy fight, but it wouldn't be as hard as the other 3 rated HWs he may fight.
     
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    Personally, I think he will lose against one of them (kab, wardley, or moses) if he fights two of the three in the next two years.

    If he fights two of them, realistically the second one could take place 15 months from now. He would be 40 years old and his style is one that relies a lot on his legs and gas tank. Two things that will almost certainly noticeably decline by the time he fought the second threat.

    Guess we'll see though. I hope youre right.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    You are not wrong but it is more important to us than it is to him. He has talked about losing, and said that he considers winning and losing two sides of the same coin. He just doesn't fear it.

    I want to see him retire undefeated, but hey, say he loses one...what then prevents him from sticking around until he is 45 adding more names to the resume?

    He's going to do what he's going to do, so we shall see.

    Best case scenario for me...he takes on Kabayel next, has enough left for that....Dubois beats Wardely, thus sealing that off because no one has any taste for a third fight...Fury fights Dubois cutting that off...and Usyk sticks around fighting more largely performative matches like Wilder, Ruiz and Benevidez.
     
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