Holyfield was only 205 when he stood toe to toe with Riddick Bowe

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, May 5, 2026.

  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    17,366
    Likes Received:
    12,775
    Zurdo was 200 a few nights ago, only 5 pounds less than Holyfield when Holyfield took Bowe to war. Holyfield lost, but he lasted the distance and gave Bowe one of the most difficult fights of his career.
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    Messages:
    32,086
    Likes Received:
    40,047
    One of the best heavyweight title fight in history.
     
  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,954
    Likes Received:
    10,414
    Involving one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time.
     
  4. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    5,634
    Likes Received:
    6,130
    Yes but I have to add that Holyfield deliberately came in lighter at 205 against Bowe because he and his trainers thought he needed more speed against the bigger and heavier Bowe. In his previous heavyweight title fights he had weighed around 210. It was a great fight but it just looked like Bowe was just too big and too strong with many saying it was a classic example of the saying “A good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un”. I have to say that Holyfield’s willingness to engage and brawl with Bowe up close didn’t exactly help though if the initial plan was to use his speed more at his lower weight.

    Tellingly it’s worth noting that in the rematch in the following year, Holyfield came in at a then career heaviest 217.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    17,468
    Likes Received:
    37,590
    Yep the original gameplan was to box vs Bowe.

    If you look at the 1st round Holyfield did a good job of boxing/moving in out with swift combinations and he clearly won the 1st round.

    Then in the 2nd round both fighters were tying up and they both kept hitting each other and the referee Joe Cortez couldn't get in there to separate them.

    So then after that vicious exchange in the 2nd round Holyfield seemed to get lured into a brawl and from that point on that's how the fight transpired.
     
  6. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2016
    Messages:
    2,013
    Likes Received:
    2,046
    And pumped to the gills with HGH.
     
  7. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,515
    Likes Received:
    6,831
    This has to raise questions on how Benavidez could do against Bowe.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  8. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2014
    Messages:
    20,785
    Likes Received:
    12,710
    The only question would be which round Benavidez would get knocked out.
     
  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2021
    Messages:
    8,736
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Round 10
     
    DS Phil Hunter likes this.
  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,954
    Likes Received:
    10,414
    I don't think those are questions David would want definitive answers to.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    17,366
    Likes Received:
    12,775
    Some questions must be asked
     
    Devon likes this.
  12. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,770
    Likes Received:
    3,220
    Holyfield is one of the most interesting heavyweights ever. A true champion..The injuries and age had caught up with him in the mid 2000's. Yet to comeback and essentially beat Valuev up on his toes and get robbed but give David Haye the template for how to beat Valuev.
     
    Blacc Jesus and TipNom like this.
  13. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    2,285
    Likes Received:
    3,640
    Holyfield trained in many ways like a bodybuilder, maintaining a very low body fat percentage to muscle ratio, so his weight was almost entirely lean muscle. Zurdo, on the other hand, came in with love handles hanging out of the side of his shorts.

    When you factor in muscle mass, the size difference between them was much greater than the 5 pounds that OP states.
     
  14. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2019
    Messages:
    923
    Likes Received:
    743
    Holyfield trained hard and used modern methods training of the day. He was a specimen allowed him to fight successfully against larger opponents. Wasn’t the only thing he had going for him he was a highly skilled boxer with a ton of heart. Now that said what was the outcome he lost. He came back at 217 and won then lost rubber match at 213 when he might have started to be affected by the heart condition.
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2026
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    58,377
    Likes Received:
    13,476
    When Bowe fought Holy the first time he was 235. When Tomasz Adamek fought Chambers he was 225. What we've been told about weight at heavy for the last quarter century has been frankly stupid and driven people to put weight on that was always a net negative.
     
    Smokin Bert likes this.