Dubois defeats Wardley, and the winner is...USYK!

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same three opponents over the course of 5 years? Yeah that'll be hard to beat...
     
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  2. Redbeard7

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    I think he is salty that Parker never got to fight Usyk but it isn't Usyk's fault Parker wasn't good enough to beat Wardley.
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

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    He dropped the IBF knowing full well his next unification was against either Dubios who he had already beaten, or AJ who he had beaten twice.

    I don't fault him for the AJ and Fury rematches, but lets not get carried away here, he absolute COULD be fighting other contenders and mandatories yet actively chooses not to. Like it or not, that will affect his legacy especially with this farce of a fight against Rico.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

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    Yeah, and I'll be honest I really wanted to see Usyk-Parker myself. I think Usyk blew it in that that is a fight that could have added a bit to his legacy...but it seems to have worked out all right, hasn't it? The law of unintended consequences here is that Dubois has another belt, and the two wins against him count for a lot more.

    I still hope the fight happens, but I don't see a bridge to it.
     
  5. Redbeard7

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    If they are all 2x or more champs, clear A-side in half or more of the fights and future hall of famers, yes it will be extremely difficult to beat. Let alone considering the GOAT CW run, undefeated record etc.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

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    I would have been fine had he at least faced Wardley, but he skipped that to fight a kickboxer.

    I know you're happy watching pointless rematches, but I guess I just have higher standards for active champions.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

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    Rico is not part of this. In the opening statement I clearly said I would rather have seen Parker. This is about Joshua 1 through Dubois II. And no, no better choices could have been made. There is no argument for this. Exchanging Zhang, Joyce and Hrgovic for one each of Fury, Joshua, and Dubois would be a precipitous DROP.
     
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  8. Redbeard7

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    In a hypothetical Usyk-Parker fight, Usyk was literally a 1/10 favourite with the bookies lol. Many considered it a pretty meaningless fight, and subsequent events seem to have bore that out.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

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    We are discussing Usyks legacy. It's absolutely relevant.
     
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    I know but Parker has had a pretty remarkable career. His resume does mean something.
     
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    Please go back and re-read the opening statement. Again, you are conflating.

    And no, what Usyk has accomplished to this point has suffered nothing.
     
  12. Kiwi Casual

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    He was considered a top 5 heavyweight at the time. Certainly more meaningful than rematching a guy you already made quit.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

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    What's better:

    Two wins over Ali and two wins over Lewis

    Or

    Single wins over Ali and Lewis, but also wins over contenders Bugner and Morrison?
     
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  14. Kiwi Casual

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    The second obviously, beating them twice has no more value than beating them once.

    Otherwise it would be the same top 4 heavyweights constantly fighting each other in endless rematches if we used your logic.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

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    Dubois was considered the No.1 HW at the time outside Usyk, and he was given a far better chance of beating Usyk than Joey 11 was because he can punch. And 2x champ Dubois has a far better chance of getting in the HoF than the Joshua, Whyte, Joyce and Wardley victim Parker.