Do you people finally agree that this is another golden era for Heavyweights?

I think it's competitive. It's not bad. But "golden"? I don't think so. It's competitive but at a lower level.

 

Dubois is a world champ. How in the world is he outside of the top 5? Isn’t he by default #1 behind Usyk?

 

You're about to see another golden era in 10 years

 

It’s a fantastic era, people just love being nostalgic but you will all look back on the last 8 years of HW boxing with a lot more respect in 5-10 years time

 

It's a very fun era with lots of good match ups happening. But it's not a golden age, not in terms of ability. You can count the Heavyweights who actually know how to fight on one hand. The rest are just giant oafs who punch hard.

Prior to Dubois, Wardley was considered to be arguably the best challenger for Usyk outside of Kabayel, and he only knows how to throw a 1-2 and an overhand. Literally Wilder again, just with an ATG chin.

I'm not impressed by the likes of Hrgovic, Zhang, Bakole, Ejagba, Joyce, Torrez, Makhmudov etc either. All are painfully limited. Obviously Usyk is incredible, and Fury, AJ and Kabayel are all pretty good (Dubois is just ok skill wise, his power compliments him a lot) and Itauma seems very promising. But Itauma is a next gen fighter and we don't know yet.

 

Strange. Is it me or does a Golden Era only gets that recognition after the fact. Like a Great Champion only becomes Legendary long after he’s gone. If there had been one champion and the title passed from one to the other like the 70’s just maybe. But multiple belt holders some literally right after losing a fight for another version win another version. Can this era really be compared to the 60’s/70’s and the 90’s/00’s. I personally say no.

 

Maybe its a shame there weren't some more great men for Usyk and Fury to sink their teeth into. Fury wasted many fights and hasn't got a resume as stacked as it could be and Usyk was kind of late to the party and hasn't been active enough. I'm very sure that Usyk has a specific cycle peds which dictates his low activity. Now cycling ready for a Kabayel bout. He looks so average physically before he hits camp.

 

I am not a nostalgic person and i was just a kid in the 90's and i didn't watch boxing back then.

The 90's, while not perfect, was objectively a better era. Lewis and Holyfield are almost unanimously on most people's list of top 10 all time heavyweights. Tyson only had 2 good years in the 90's so fair enough.

Bowe, old Foreman, Mercer, older Witherspoon, as well as exciting ko artists like Morrison, Ruddock, Briggs and in the later part of the decade the likes of Tua and Ibeabuchi were all really really good.

This era has one guy (Usyk) who is objectively a top 10 or top 15 all time heavy. Fury and Joshua are not top 15 all time since they simply don't have the resume for it. Wilder and Wardley are equivalent to Morrison and Ruddock, i guess.

Parker is close in ability to Mercer. Kabayel is very good but we haven't seen him fight the top top guys just yet.

I don't know, i will say the 90's was deeper to me.

 

I agree Usyk will go down as one of the greats. And so he should. Head to head he beats some of the legends or goes 2-1, 3-1 1-2, 2-3 etc. it’s the whole picture I’m thinking about. In the years following his retirement. And I’m talking about long after his retirement with no chance of a comeback. What was the competition like during his heavyweight reign. Stronger than Marciano’s. Stronger than Dempsey’s. Lesser than Ali’s and Lewis’s. Strong but not Golden. Just my opinion.

 

To me it is a silver age. There really is no one at the top to make it interesting for Usyk, but it's thick as motor oil one level down. I mean, really...

Usyk
Fury
Dubois
Joshua
Parker
Kabayel
Wardley
Sanchez
Wilder
Chisora
Itauma
Hrgovic
Zhang
Gassiev
Ajagba
Vianello
Bakole
Okolie
Miller
Riakphore
Torrez (he'll be back)

And you really could to on and on with guys on the the cusp or who just fell out of the top tier. Of the top of my head, guys who could get in there...

Jalaov
Joyce
Opetaia
Ruiz
Yoka
Mullijonov
Gadhzimagomedov

Good division by volume of guys who could contribute