Rico Verhoeven vs Muhammad Ali

How did Dough Jones manage it then?

 

Because he was a fast skilled slick boxer.

 

The bell is a legit part of the game. Not a rescue. Not some conspiracy.

I never said Usyks legacy is tarnished. He is clearly the number 1 guy in his era. Instead of admitting he fought a poor fight tactically and didn’t take advantage of the numerous defensive holes in Rico, they are grasping at straws to claim Rico would beat great historical heavyweights

 

With multiple losses to no hopers? This is my point. After one of those losses, by today's standards he'd have been classed as a bum.

 

Maybe because he had better boxing fundamentals than Verhoeven. That fact might seem alien to you because you assume all modern boxers are better

 

How did all them bums kick his ass then?

 

He was infinitely more skilled than Rico regardless of how many losses he had

it’s hilarious people are using pre Liston Ali. He was a young guy who hadn’t even filled out yet and was developing his game. Not a seasoned pro just.

there is a reason why Cooper couldn’t lay a glove on him 3 years later. There is a reason why the skilled 6’6 Terrell was treated as a teenage boy in there.

There is a reason why Foreman, a guy who had more power in his pinky than Rico does in both fists, couldn’t put a dent in him.

anyone picking Rico to beat Ali needs a psychiatric evaluation. He isn’t winning a round vs any version of Ali from 64-75.

 

So what was the reason Ali lost 5 fights? And struggled and was decked in several others? I thought he was invincible?

 

Because they were capable of beating people up with good fundamentals. Bums back then had the basics down and knew how to fight on the inside. Maybe thats why you see so many old heads say boxing has regressed.

Verhoeven is garbage and he would get cooked by anyone in the top 10 not named Usyk

 

So how did they end up getting knocked out by spuds?

 

Considering Ali beat punchers like Shavers, Foreman and Lyle, I am very skeptical of the certainty of the ko defeat. Ali had great recuperative powers. I don’t see Cooper stopping him.

no one forced Usyk to take the Rico fight. No one made him come a career heaviest. Him being 39 and still holding on to the belts is his own doing.

criticism is that a guy who just came off one of his best performances took a gimmick fight and didn’t even bother showing up in shape. It does not tarnish his legacy. It just means he embarrassed boxing today. In the grand scheme of things, most people won’t even remember today