There's a lot more at play here than the average casual, hater, or fanatic seems to realize. All of these things can be true: Rico could be a legitimate top 15 guy, we don't know Usyk's style doesn't age well and he's almost 40 Rico fought the right style a la Chisora and has a frame and enough skill to execute against this Usyk The stoppage was bad, but Rico could barely walk to the corner to get his mouthpiece. If the ref had done the 'walk there, walk there' routine during the count, it'd have been waved off Usyk's legacy remains simply incredible. He is one of the greatest fighters to have lived Different styles have different longevities. Usyk darts in and out, throws with speed, uses constant upper body movement. This type of style is one of the first to go. The Dubois II fight was almost a year ago and Usyk made some big hints that that would be one of, if not his final fight. It's tough to argue he's still at the same level of locked in and dedicated by the mere fact he even took the Rico fight. I understand being reactionary is status quo with boxing fans. That said, let's try to not get carried away when an aging fighter with a youthful style looks past his prime on the cusp of 40 years old.
Usyk is past his prime and wasn’t fussed about this fight, I don’t think it has any impact on his legacy. Hes clearly proven he is the best of pretty average era. GOAT talk is ridiculous.
It doesn't affect his legacy he's 39 y/o, well past his prime, and came in at a very sluggish career heaviest weight and was getting caught with shots which he would've evaded with ease even a few years ago, let alone in his blazing fast giant mongoose prime In order to be fair we'd have to pit his fellow HW ATGs vs a Rico when they were 39 y/o, well past their prime, and at a very sluggish career heaviest weight and whilst giving away the obscene size advantages Usyk was with no idea what to expect or prepare for But these agenda-driven clowns won't ever do that because they hold Usyk to a completely different standard to every other fighter in history, including every single one he's supposedly inferior to and would stand no chance of beating in their eyes, and they deemed all their favs or fellow ATGs shot or well past their primes in their mid 30s at the very latest and even younger than that in some instances
I have moved him from #1 p4p fighter of all time time to #70 just for heavyweights and #30 for cruiserweights, as that affects his legacy there too. I have also revoked his status as GOAT dancer.
Joe Louis lost at age 36 and 37, Muhammad Ali didn't look good against 6-0 Leon Spinks and the mediocre Berbick. But it didn't diminish what they accomplished. So let it be with Usyk.
Reasonable post, but there's still time to edit to a reactionary post that reads something like: The HW division is trash Usyk is overrated and embarrassed the sport A corrupt ref saved Usyk who is not a top 30 HW all time
Like Ngannou, Rico was top 15 level on the night but he may never be again, in part because he got dropped and stopped and is aging. Like Fury, Usyk had no blueprint and didn't take the opponent as seriously as he should have, which won't be the case for Rico next time. Like Ngannou, Rico could be caught on the chin by a big puncher and KO'd early, though he is a lot smarter than Ngannou despite being less durable, so I expect he won't be KO'd in 2.
It feels like the MVC/Boxing Master threads stirring up the Floyd is **** or Floyd is GOAT. Pacquiao is **** or Pacquiao is GOAT. Back in the day, I used to read the forum and it was pretty funny. It’s either one thing or the other, Usyk is **** or Usyk is the GOAT.