Elucidating Those Boggled Of Mind On What Transpired In The Great Usyk-Verhoeven Cataclysm Of 2026.

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Varying degrees of success.

    Holly Holm? Won a UFC champiohship
    Ray Mercer? Knocked out Silvia in a few secods.
    Marcus Davis did all right at 23-11
    Clarrissa Sheilds 2-1
    Glowacki 2-2
    Mia St John has an MMA win

    I haven't watched MMA in years, but I remembered the Mercer win, leaned about Holm not long ago.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rico outlanded Usyk in power punches in 7 out of the 10 rounds.

    And in regards to the type of fight it was Rico was making it his kind of fight being the effective aggressor and bullying Usyk along the ropes.

    I can't personally see the fight being even going into the 11th round.

    But I can see the fight being even going into the 12th round after Usyk's 2 point round.
     
  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Laura Grzyb seems to have a degree of crossover success for what's it worth. Those willing to adjust, will adjust.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

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    Good point.

    But Usyk outlanded him in jabs in seven rounds, and the power punches were close, so it is still a scenario where a lot of it comes down to judges perception. In any event, he would have been officially up on all cards after the 11th.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

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    Thanks! I'll add that to the list.

    The greater point anyway is that boxing is now built into the MMA training, and boxing is still by far the biggest money-drawing combat sport in the world, so I don't understand the existential angst that a lot of fans have.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    Which I would've disagreed with and so would most people.

    There was a poll here in regards to who people thought was winning the fight. And Rico won the poll by landslide 61 to 11 which is 89 percent compared to 11 percent.

    Do you agree with the judge that had Joshua winning 7-5 in the 2nd fight vs Usyk ?

    Or do you agree with the judge that thought Fury won the 1st fight vs Usyk ?

    I know you're a big Usyk fan which is fine but it would be a stretch to have the fight dead level going into the 11th round.

    Rico was the effective aggressor and landed more power punches.

    I would agree Usyk levelled it up with the 10-8 round but not prior to that IMO.
     
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  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk could fight easy fights (hell this was supposed to be his easy fight). But then he’d have to earn the typical $3mil, $5mil, etc. Not the insane sums he’s getting per fight now. If he fights twice more for Turki, he probably starts approaching Mayweather in career earnings.
     
  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Sean Strickland and Illa Topuria both have great runs because of their striking, just to name a few, and one of Dutch Kickboxing's core strength is their boxing and ability to widen their stance, square up, and make angles up close.

    Not to mention boxing always had that gentlemanly aspect to it with huge historical lore.
     
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  9. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk should fight Duncan Ferguson and Brett Favre next, but they both might do him
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Gabe as per usually gets it. Shockingly, Max had a few good takes as well.
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  11. catchwtboxing

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    And again, it is a good point that he landed more power punches in seven, but,

    1. There are other factors for clean/hard punching. Rico was visibly rocked several times, especially in the 4th.

    2. Usyk won seven rounds for jabs. I would agree that a power punch counts for more than a jab, but it re-enforces #1.

    3. A lot of people bought into the hype of the event. Listen to some of the professional commentators, and they had it even.

    You make a good point, and I don't have anything against it being even after 11...accept that Rico should have been penalized for the spitting out the mouthpiece, so...
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    We can agree to disagree mate.

    I just preferred Rico's effective aggression I felt he did a good job at making Usyk feel uncomfortable.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    And again, we don't disagree by that much. You said you don't have a problem with it being even after 11, and neither do I.
     
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  14. Serge

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    I know facial damage can be deceptive of what transpired in a fight but look at the state of Rico here

    Usyk was badly marked up vs AJ but the big difference here is that he was facing fighters way bigger, heavier and more powerful than him not ones way smaller

    And look at the shape he's in too, a super lean 258lbs

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  15. Serge

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    I didn't say I didn't want him to do that. I would rather he retired and wanted him to and thought he should of after beating Belly or at the very latest after he beat Dubois in the rematch would would've been as fitting a time as it gets to bow out. But if he is going to continue he needs to fight Kabayel or drop the belt and give Rico a rematch too.

    Whilst I want him to give Kabayel his shot and think Kabayel thoroughly deserves his shot, part of me doesn't want to see him fight him now because the chances of him losing to him are significantly higher now because he's declined even more and looked a lot worse than he did even in his last fight, let alone from the much quicker, much more fluid, smooth, agile, sharp and accurate prime version or even the version of 3-4 years ago

    My issue is how he's just expected to fight Kabayel in Germany and Rico in Holland, let alone at 40 y/o or very shortly before doing so for the first one of them and I'm not saying I'm opposed to him doing so either I just hate how he's expected to do so like he should have no say in the matter when no other fighter in the sport is doing what he's been doing, has forged a career doing, or is expected to do so even in their primes

    I love Kabayel but after a career of fighting in his opponent's backyards on a deck stacked against him or on the road, having won and unified all bar one of his world titles in his opponent's backyards and the other being on the road, they expect Usyk to once again take on a much bigger and younger prime dangerous puncher in their backyard on a deck heavily stacked against him and to do so at 40 years of age (or a couple of months away from turning 40 at worst). Poland shares a border with both Germany and Ukraine and Usyk's only 'home' fight since moving up to the world level was staged over there and he sold twice the amount of tickets there for that fight than Kabayel did in Germany for his ''big sell out fight'' and even though there's a lot of Ukranians living in Germany there's a lot more of them living in Poland and if Kabayel is such a big star in his homeland then surely his fans won't have a problem venturing across the border to Poland in their droves just like Usyk's in Ukraine won't

    Again, I'm not opposed to Usyk fighting Kabayel in Germany but I hate how it's just expected of him to keep doing this again and again when he's the champ, he calls the shots, and he's the far bigger star and yes it does greatly increase your chances of losing for a whole host of different reasons

    And the fact no one has even mentioned Poland as a location or even asked Usyk where he would prefer the fight is extremely disrespectful

    If you keep fighting savage puncher and legit bangers you're going to get knocked out eventually

    If you keep fighting giants way bigger than you you're going to come unstuck and get knocked out or lose

    If you keep fighting in your opponents in their backyards you're going to lose via hook or crook eventually

    If you keep fighting in your mid to late 30s or early 40s against fellow world champions, the highest rated contenders, world class opposition you're going to lose eventually, let alone ones younger or much younger and fresh than you

    Well, Usyk isn't only doing all that, and has been doing so for his entire career since moving up to the world level with the giants obviously being since he moved up to HW but he's doing it all simultaneously and has been doing so for ages when no other champion in the sport is doing the same, let alone routinely and there are so many who haven't even done it once and I mean the greatest fighters of this generation

    And even if he does it again, win or lose, he won't receive a lick of credit for doing so for millions of fans and fans of all these other fighters and if he were to lose they would crucify him for doing so, act like he's in his prime, and tear his legacy to shreds even though he's 40 y/o and way pay past his prime and did something none of the favs are doing or likely ever will

    I agree with everything you said I'm just clarifying my position and what I have an issue with
     
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