Inside Information On The Hectic Situation Currently Surrounding Usyk & His Team.

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That and I'd imagine a lot of UK slang would be picked up when they went to the UK to train/fight etc.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, oftentimes that organically happens and you're not even aware of it. I've incorporated a lot of British slang into my lingo from associating with the Brits on here, and I'm as American as apple pie. **** all has become one of my favorite sayings.:lol:
     
  3. Cyrion

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    Yeah, that's what is so crazy about Usyk's career. He accomplished all this crazy stuff and became a living legend at HW and he was already basically an old man when he really got going into his HW journey. He was 34 going on 35 in that first win over AJ.

    His absolute peak and where he looked best was back at cruiserweight. All that beautiful movement, flowing around the ring, piling giant amounts of volume and pressure on his opponents, etc.

    So he conquered the HW division and he did it as the 2nd best version of himself. Wild. Now he's still boxing at 39 freaking years old against much bigger, younger, and stronger guys. Still getting it done somehow. Gotta be time to hang 'em up though.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes. People forget that he's not a natural HW and has to bulk up a lot in order to campaign at the weight. His optimum fighting weight is between 200-210lbs max and he was coming in at 207-208lbs for his fights at CW where fight night weights were announced

    He can fight as high as 221 and still be very effective and look really good but anything above that detracts from him but he's actually been coming increasingly heavier and heavier and it's even worse because he's doing it when Father Time is hard at work working against him so it's a two-pronged attack working in unison but one is self-inflicted and avoidable.

    The thing is he didn't even need to bulk up because if you watch him in the WSB when he had no experience fighting SHW giants he was toying with almost all of them and hurting them, stopping them, and you could see they were feeling the weight of his shots and sone of those guys were some of the very best SHWs in the world. His speed, reflexes, reaction times, counter punching caused those giants fits.
     
  5. Cyrion

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    I still routinely go back and watch that WSB fight he had with Joe Joyce. I just love that crazy version of Usyk. Wild look in his eye and yelling at Joe to try and hit him, lol.
     
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  6. BustedSaint

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    His defence is highly compromised if the footwork situation is permanent, and he's had heavy punishment at times with zero left to prove and a fat commentator's or trainer's salary waiting. Now is the time I say.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is what many don't get. Even though the decline is glaring for all to see because he's still winning and at the top it fools people into thinking he's still in his prime and hasn't declined but he's been doing this whilst defying Father Time because he's so talented, tough and such a complete fighter and it's a testimony to that and his greatness he's been able to do it in his mid to late 30s when having declined so much

    If you keep fighting savage punchers and punchers eventually you're going to get ktfo

    If you keep fighting in your opponent's backyards and on the road you're going to come unstuck via hook or crook

    if you keep fighting giants and fighters much bigger than you you're going to lose or get ktfo

    If you keep fighting in your mid to late 30s against the best and fellow world champs, the highest rated contenders you're going to lose, especially vs much younger or younger ones

    He's not only been doing that routinely he's been doing it simultaneously often B2B


    There's a reason why so many other elite fighters and fellow greats won't do these things, let alone simultaneously and routinely or never did in their careers. He jumps at the opportunity to do so and he's playing a game of Russian roulette and should by rights have come unstuck long ago
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, someone said he was risk averse the other day which is just downright bizarre. He can box beautifully on the back foot but he's generally an aggressive fighter but a super skilled and defensively brilliant one. He can fight in a number of different styles and he's always had that dawg in him
     
  9. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk was so good in his fight prior, its just weird how much he declined in the Rico fight. But to me, Usyk looked out of shape which could partially explain the decline.
     
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  10. GoodBot

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    Usyk´s team 100% is after the money, its why a fight with Wilder on PBC was even talked about. The team wont chase any particular fighter, because they are after large guarantees by promoters; they are not looking to sell PPV´s or tickets themselves.
    Usyk would fight Chisora again if someone paid for that fight, and paid more for it than any other fight.
     
  11. GoodBot

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    To be fair, Usyk was flatfooted in his last fight too, and his punch volume was down significantly too.
    Well, according to punch Compubox, the volume was down only slightly as Usyk threw a lot fewer jabs and instead opted for power power punches.

    This approach worked against Dubois, and marvelously so, but it was a disaster against Rico. He was too stationary and too reliant on his power punches. Usyk´s jab is something that always set him apart from the competition.
     
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  12. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's CHEF isn't it.
     
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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Getting rid of the parasite manager and klimas was smart, though, both scumbags. One was clearly slime, creating trouble during the Fury negotiations and off partying in London and feathering his nest during the war, and the other was calling Fury's wife the kind of names that could get them into actual fights during meet-ups, and rightly so, with Usyk getting dragged into it.
    The lapin guy clearly a pos also.
    The bro love bs with AJ and 'Team AJ' is embarrassing though.
    So it's a mixed bag with Usyk and his decisions.
     
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  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could imagine these leeches taking advantage of Usyks good nature.
     
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  15. ubareem

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    Even though his footwork was decreased vs Dubois, he still came out bouncing with lateral movement and landed quick jabs.

    The last fight vs Rico he wasn't even 10% of his usual self... 0 lateral movement or pendulum steps. He also got winded after a few rounds!!

    Something is definitely off with Usyk now.
     
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