Usyk Vs Kabayel 2026 Poll

LoveThis · May 28, 2026

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And in addition to that, we've already seen with both Usyk and Loma that even when you do everything the right and noble way and pretty much exclusively fight the best or tough touches on the road or in their backyards

Whilst being the complete antithesis of weight bullies and routinely giving away big or huge size advantages w/o catchweights or rehydration clauses and trying to cripple your opponents at the negotiating table

W/o home advantage, home officials

Fighting loads of KO artists or big punchers not only your size but bigger, much or way bigger

Being clean fighters who beat you with pure skills and not fouling and cheating

And not putting a toe wrong, let alone foot in or out of the ring

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I was with you when he was doing the right thing. Dubois 2 was questionable. But holding the belts as long as possible without meaningful defending them is a crime against the sport.

The pressure SHOULD be the highest at the top. Look how long kabayel is already waiting for his deserved FIRST shot at a title.

Those old champs with names should just relinquish all titles, then there is no critizism. But they won't because the money is connected to them and they see themselves as the best but don't want to prove it.

You expect everyone to just hail usyk in spite of that? No matter the career before, that is just bad behavior and has consequences for the boxing landscape and the challengers. He made over a hundred million as far as i understand. There is no victory lap with the belts. Especially not when you fight once a year...

Serge · May 28, 2026

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I was with you when he was doing the right thing. Dubois 2 was questionable. But holding the belts as long as possible without meaningful defending them is a crime against the sport.

The pressure SHOULD be the highest at the top. Look how long kabayel is already waiting for his deserved FIRST shot at a title.

Those old champs with names should just relinquish all titles, then there is no critizism. But they won't because the money is connected to them and they see themselves as the best but don't want to prove it.

You expect everyone to just hail usyk in spite of that? No matter the career before, that is just bad behavior and has consequences for the boxing landscape and the challengers. He made over a hundred million as far as i understand. There is no victory lap with the belts. Especially not when you fight once a year...
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You misunderstand me. No, he isn't and shouldn't be above criticism. That's not my point at all. Kabayel deserves his shot and Usyk absolutely deserves criticism for that but it should be proportional and not used as a pretext to try and tear his entire career and legacy down

And it shouldn't be ignored or forgotten that he has been pretty much a model pro for almost his entire career up until recently, almost a perfect one who was too good to be true, and hadn't put a foot wrong for so long, and has been treading a path and doing things routinely that no one else is sport is doing and so many are loath to do and still is even now

And he shouldn't be held to a standard no other fighter is held to where despite treading the path he has forging a career doing everything the much harder and more noble way barely putting a foot wrong along the way but many act like he's immune from the ageing process and is still in his prime at damn near 40 y/o even though he has clearly been declining for a long time and is well past his best.

He's not even allowed to have a poor performance when an old man in boxing years facing giants who dwarf him, let alone a loss whereas the losses and poor performances other greats had in the primes are excused and aren't used to tear down their entire legacies like so many are doing to Usyk now and I've been saying for years this is EXACTLY what was going to happen as soon as he loses even when in his late 30s when long past his prime and he didn't even actually lose

He's been facing nothing but giants and much naturally bigger, younger or much younger men, in their backyards or on the road, savage puncher or legit banger B2B to B2B and with the exception of Dubois I his mandatory and Rico in his last fight (who was his only 'soft touch' which turned out to be anything but a soft touch and I told everyone beforehand that I didn't think it was near the soft touch they were so sure it was going to be) all in his mid to late 30s, not doing that occasionally but B2B to B2B which, again, no one else in the sport is doing but receives zero credit for from many. That's my point

Loma is a pure legacy fighter and hasn't put a foot wrong at all when it comes to taking on the best despite fighting in a division he was tiny for vs much or way bigger opponents but look at the hate he gets and how his extremely controversial losses all vs much or way bigger fighters in their backyards or in what are essentially their backyards are held against him and used to destroy his entire legacy.

TNSNO1878 · May 28, 2026

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It's a huge ask and even worse Usyk won't receive any credit for fighting the much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime version of Kabayel in Germany on a deck stacked against him from so many and if he were to lose all of that context would be completely ignored and he will be crucified for it and they will act like he was in his prime and not taking another massive risk fighting another much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime top contender or fellow champ in their backyard on a deck stacked against him
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It is a huge ask. After that Rico fight, I was reactionary and said he'd lose to Kabayel. Now, I have had a few days to think about it, and I think Usyk wins a close decision or gets robbed on the cards in Germany. Even if he is on the decline, I think Kabayel won't be able to figure Usyk out. Why won't he receive any credit for it, though? I think he will get all the credit for fighting Kabayel in Germany, as he is pushing 40. He doesn't get any credit for the Rico fight from most people, and rightly so. He should be scalded for that. Fighting Kabayel in Germany is a totally different proposition.

I don't see why anyone wouldn't give him maximum credit for that, even people who are hating on him now. The reason he's getting so much current hate is that he fought a non-boxer for the WBC title and nearly made a complete mess of it. But Kabayel is currently the most deserving, so the difference is night and day, and I think he will definitely get credit, win or lose.

Fully Loaded · May 28, 2026

Usyk should not be favorite to win against any Top10 heavyweight after the Rico knockout. If he does beat Kabayel, it should be considered an upset.

dmt · May 28, 2026

Kabayel is not a natural 240 lber. Not even close. He is a natural 215-220 lbs at most. He is carrying at least 20 lbs of unnecessary weight on him.

Kiwi Casual · May 28, 2026

Usyk by stoppage. Kabayel has a rather thin resume (not helped by his inactivity), and has fought nobody even close to Usyk's ability yet.

Kiwi Casual · May 28, 2026

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Kabayel was already a dangerous enough opponent for a 2024, 2025 version of Usyk, let alone a 2026-2027 version Usyk. A prime or closer to prime version would outbox him comfortably, even the version we saw a year ago would stand a far greater chance of beating him than the version we saw the other night who looked like a pale shadow of his former self

The weight disparity between Kabayel and Usyk, assuming Kabayel comes in around the same weight he has been in recent fights and Usyk gets back down to say 225, would be about 15-16lbs but in terms of natural size its's a lot more than that. He looked like a completely different species to Usyk the other day in terms of width, thickness, head and neck size, way heavier and that was biggest Usyk we've ever seen

Kabayel is folding 262-287lb man mountains with body shots, Usyk is a natural CW who should be no more than 220lbs

If Usyk came in at 233 again and Kabayel at 240-241 there would only be a 7-8lb difference between them but it would be so deceptive in terms of natural size

People say Kabayel is slow but he actually has quick hands for his size. I've seen him come in much heavier than 241 and it didn't effect his hand speed at all and he still looked excellent.

Usyk would obviously need his feet and movement for that fight and his speed, reaction times, and reflexes and they're all greatly diminished

And then it's just expected of him to fight the much bigger/even more naturally bigger, six year younger and much fresher Kabayel in Germany on a deck heavily stacked in Kabayek's favour where they'd likely give Kabayel as small a ring as possible which would be a massive advantage for him and make a huge difference, when Usyk is 40 y/o or a couple of months at best if that from turning 40 when Usyk is well past his prime and looked every day of his 39 + years in his previous fight

Again, it would make a lot more sense to stage the fight in Poland but they just expect Usyk to fight him in Germany when he's already forged a career being the ultimate road warrior and he's giving away so many other advantages to Kabayel already and is routinely doing things no one else in the sport is

It's a huge ask and even worse Usyk won't receive any credit for fighting the much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime version of Kabayel in Germany on a deck stacked against him from so many and if he were to lose all of that context would be completely ignored and he will be crucified for it and they will act like he was in his prime and not taking another massive risk fighting another much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime top contender or fellow champ in their backyard on a deck stacked against him
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All fair points, but who do you think takes it?

Mickc · May 28, 2026

I’ve always said Kabayel has the style and smarts to give Usyk fits and can’t wait for the fight to happen,I honestly think Kabayel not only beats him but stops him now. Kabayel comes across as such a genuine humble,quietly confident man and is looking forward to the Usyk fight,he is the type of fighter Boxing needs.Usyk has changed,brilliant up to becoming Undisputed and now he’s just like Fury and the rest,money money money ! Parker avoided,Warldey vacated to get out of the fight, (fights Usyk wins as well) Kabayel still waiting after Usyk takes a cross over fight,I’ve said before on here had Fury done this there would be 200 pages slating him,but when it’s Usyk the golden child of the forum it’s 200 pages of excuses for him. Greedy Belly/Greedy Rabbit both the same ! Let’s see if Usyk honours the deal and does fight Kabayel or if it’s another vacated belt ! Should Usyk beat Kabayel then that’s him cleared the old guard out that was infront of him and the best fighter of the chasing pack and then he should 100% retire !

jmb1356 · May 28, 2026

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Kabayel was already a dangerous enough opponent for a 2024, 2025 version of Usyk, let alone a 2026-2027 version Usyk. A prime or closer to prime version would outbox him comfortably, even the version we saw a year ago would stand a far greater chance of beating him than the version we saw the other night who looked like a pale shadow of his former self

The weight disparity between Kabayel and Usyk, assuming Kabayel comes in around the same weight he has been in recent fights and Usyk gets back down to say 225, would be about 15-16lbs but in terms of natural size its's a lot more than that. He looked like a completely different species to Usyk the other day in terms of width, thickness, head and neck size, way heavier and that was biggest Usyk we've ever seen

Kabayel is folding 262-287lb man mountains with body shots, Usyk is a natural CW who should be no more than 220lbs

If Usyk came in at 233 again and Kabayel at 240-241 there would only be a 7-8lb difference between them but it would be so deceptive in terms of natural size

People say Kabayel is slow but he actually has quick hands for his size. I've seen him come in much heavier than 241 and it didn't effect his hand speed at all and he still looked excellent.

Usyk would obviously need his feet and movement for that fight and his speed, reaction times, and reflexes and they're all greatly diminished

And then it's just expected of him to fight the much bigger/even more naturally bigger, six year younger and much fresher Kabayel in Germany on a deck heavily stacked in Kabayek's favour where they'd likely give Kabayel as small a ring as possible which would be a massive advantage for him and make a huge difference, when Usyk is 40 y/o or a couple of months at best if that from turning 40 when Usyk is well past his prime and looked every day of his 39 + years in his previous fight

Again, it would make a lot more sense to stage the fight in Poland but they just expect Usyk to fight him in Germany when he's already forged a career being the ultimate road warrior and he's giving away so many other advantages to Kabayel already and is routinely doing things no one else in the sport is

It's a huge ask and even worse Usyk won't receive any credit for fighting the much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime version of Kabayel in Germany on a deck stacked against him from so many and if he were to lose all of that context would be completely ignored and he will be crucified for it and they will act like he was in his prime and not taking another massive risk fighting another much bigger, younger, fresher and more powerful prime top contender or fellow champ in their backyard on a deck stacked against him
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TBH, history would probably remember Usyk beating Wilder better than Kabayel. That would be every major long-reigning champion of the era he'll have defeated if that happens.

Kiwi Casual · May 28, 2026

jmb1356 said: ↑

TBH, history would probably remember Usyk beating Wilder better than Kabayel. That would be every major long-reigning champion of the era he'll have defeated if that happens.
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On the flipside, he'd be criticized for taking a cherry-pick/avoiding a mandatory. I think the Kabayel fight has to happen next, and anything else is a bonus.

LoveThis · May 28, 2026

Serge said: ↑

You misunderstand me. No, he isn't and shouldn't be above criticism. That's not my point at all. Kabayel deserves his shot and Usyk absolutely deserves criticism for that but it should be proportional and not used as a pretext to try and tear his entire career and legacy down

And it shouldn't be ignored or forgotten that he has been pretty much a model pro for almost his entire career up until recently, almost a perfect one who was too good to be true, and hadn't put a foot wrong for so long, and has been treading a path and doing things routinely that no one else is sport is doing and so many are loath to do and still is even now

And he shouldn't be held to a standard no other fighter is held to where despite treading the path he has forging a career doing everything the much harder and more noble way barely putting a foot wrong along the way but many act like he's immune from the ageing process and is still in his prime at damn near 40 y/o even though he has clearly been declining for a long time and is well past his best.

He's not even allowed to have a poor performance when an old man in boxing years facing giants who dwarf him, let alone a loss whereas the losses and poor performances other greats had in the primes are excused and aren't used to tear down their entire legacies like so many are doing to Usyk now and I've been saying for years this is EXACTLY what was going to happen as soon as he loses even when in his late 30s when long past his prime and he didn't even actually lose

He's been facing nothing but giants and much naturally bigger, younger or much younger men, in their backyards or on the road, savage puncher or legit banger B2B to B2B and with the exception of Dubois I his mandatory and Rico in his last fight (who was his only 'soft touch' which turned out to be anything but a soft touch and I told everyone beforehand that I didn't think it was near the soft touch they were so sure it was going to be) all in his mid to late 30s, not doing that occasionally but B2B to B2B which, again, no one else in the sport is doing but receives zero credit for from many. That's my point

Loma is a pure legacy fighter and hasn't put a foot wrong at all when it comes to taking on the best despite fighting in a division he was tiny for vs much or way bigger opponents but look at the hate he gets and how his extremely controversial losses all vs much or way bigger fighters in their backyards or in what are essentially their backyards are held against him and used to destroy his entire legacy.
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Maybe you're right. I saw most of the critizism from my own perspective which i see as justified, as i mentioned, but you can never be sure if the critizism is just meant to detract from someones whole career.

I spoke of part 1 and 2 and that is how i think about it. I Just hate what usyk / his team is leaning into now with their 'only wants big fights' statements, while holding on to the belts as long as possible.

After critizising canelo so much i will not ignore it when usyk takes that path. I am very impressed by one of the greatest careers in boxing ever, but i am first and foremost a fan of boxing, not of usyk or other single individuals. And when the elite become part of what works against fans and good fights and worthy challengers and what is fair and right, and when greed takes over instead of ambition - then i won't back that.

Grinder · May 29, 2026

Serge said: ↑

And in addition to that, we've already seen with both Usyk and Loma that even when you do everything the right and noble way and pretty much exclusively fight the best or tough touches on the road or in their backyards

Whilst being the complete antithesis of weight bullies and routinely giving away big or huge size advantages w/o catchweights or rehydration clauses and trying to cripple your opponents at the negotiating table

W/o home advantage, home officials

Fighting loads of KO artists or big punchers not only your size but bigger, much or way bigger

Being clean fighters who beat you with pure skills and not fouling and cheating

And not putting a toe wrong, let alone foot in or out of the ring

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They are honourable. In some ways, not passing on the lineal championship via a defeat is not ideal. My preference is Usyk stops when he knows he can't compete at the level he wants.

BCS8 · May 29, 2026

Usyk decision IF he manages to regain his best form. Otherwise he could be in trouble.

WhataRock · May 29, 2026

Usyk is going to eat his Kurds and weigh..a little less.

Lonsdale81 · May 29, 2026

Usyk didn't look good , but maybe his Masonic masters scripted the fight as a humiliation ritual & hes still the same as the Dubois version really .. & could therefore still have enough left to beat Kabayel in a legit fight

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