Usyk is still the #1 heavyweight of his era

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Parker and Huni couldn't do it. Wardley can be seen as a dangerous fringe contender
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Respectfully, none of those guys have even won a championship, or demonstrated that they can do so. Hrgovic and Sanchez are going to get chances, but they all lost when given big opportunities.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Agreed.
     
  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The biggest chances against Kabayel and Dubois where they gave a positive account of themselves. And they are the ones at the top of the mountain mind you!!

    Bakoles another one he took a fight on short notice now hes chopped liver.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Bakole isn't in the conversation. He only beat Baby Anderson--and I told everybody Anderson is terrible. It astonishes me that anyone saw anything in him.

    Kabayel is a good fellow, and he deserves a shot, but his resume is not at the top. He's not even #5...that would be Parker. Let's compare...

    KABAYEL
    Zhang
    Chisora
    Sanchez
    Makhmudov

    FURY
    WladKlit
    WilderX2
    Whyte
    ChisoraX3
    Cunningham
    Makhmudov
    Wallin

    JOSHUA
    WladKlit
    Parker
    Ruiz
    Povetkin
    Whyte
    Pulev
    Helenius
    Wallin
    Breazele

    DUBOIS
    Joshua
    Wardley
    Hrgovic
    Miller
    Lerena

    PARKER
    Wilder
    Ruiz
    Zhang
    Bakole
    ChisoraX2
    Meehan
    Botha
    Dimentenko
    Leapai
    Hughfury
    Takam
    Massey

    I know who is on last place, here.
     
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  6. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Real talk Anderson>Torrez.

    Sanchez is the single best win anyone on that list has.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Friend...I think that is utterly delusional. Seriously, let's put that to a poll.
     
  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    this is not how it works. At the top level, two top fighters in the pros are rarely scheduled for six rounds each.

    if you want to argue that Usyk winning Wsb fights is more impressive than future champs beating journeymen in 6 rounds fight, you can make that argument. But these wins should in no way be regarded as the equivalent of a top pro beating another top pro in a 12 rounder
     
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  9. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anderson v Torrez? Let's do it.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    That's not the issue.

    You said that Sanchez is the best win anyone has on the list I made. I think something is getting lost in translation, here.
     
  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree the idea that Sanchez is the best win is utterly crazy but if you include losses (of which Parker has four, all of them quite bad) and consider the nature of the wins, Kabayel's record is far above Parker's.

    Kabayel beat Chisora without controversy. Parker needed two goes against an older version, and we agree Chisora should have got the nod in fight 1.

    Parker went life and death to scrape a win over Zhang, Kabayel walked through him in 6 rounds next fight.

    Significant as these are two of Parker's three best opponents beaten, along with the Ruiz MD in NZ. I regard Sanchez KO7 as a better win than that.

    I dont see any case for including Meehan, Botha, Leapai, Dimitrenko or even Massey as notable Parker wins. Rudenko was at or above those levels surely.
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    But surely, even if you make the case against Parker, Kabayel is not in the league of Fury, Joshua and Dubois?
     
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a much stronger case that they are/were better fighters, I would say thay have better wins. Kabayel may be being flattered by his zero. He also didnt do anything for 6+ years, seemed to duck Joyce and was considered a tick over for Fury, who had sparred him.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

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    So back to the original point, if the three men that Usyk beat twice each are better than the man that you have put up as splitting the ear, then Usyk is clearly #1, with a bullet, by a country mile....
     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No doubt. The OP's title is bizarre. Even if Usyk had lost he would still be far and away the No.1.
     
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