Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Ricardo Verhoeven & Frank Sanchez vs. Richard Torrez Jr. RBR.

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  1. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Active Member Full Member

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    Schilts was a freak but the late great Rob Kaman is generally considered the Dutch GOAT

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  2. ubareem

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    Schilt's first knockdown (and KO) of Badr Hari in the Grand Prix 2009 final was brutal. Schilt's jab was so powerful Badr's ears flapped about like Dumbo's.

    It's easy to understand why Rico would say that about Schilt.

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  3. Drago

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    He was definately a pioneer thats for sure.

    Whats about Ramon Dekkers?
     
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    Yes true. I mean such things arent uncomon. I know boxing people think nobody hits harder or as hard as boxers, but Sialia "Mighty Mo" Siligia destroyed Francois Botha, and I make a bet seeing that he punches not weaker as Tyson, Lewis and W. Klitschko:

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    Botha wasnt a glass chin, but he went down anytime Mo s right hand hit him flush.

    About Schilt: I would have liked to see Schilt vs Nicolai Valuev even in a boxing fight. Valuev was the real WBA champ back in 2005-2007 and 2009, sure his overall boxing skills were better, but Schilt was faster, more agile, simply controlled his body much better, and his jab wasnt worser as Valuev s. I could see if Valuev and Schilt had boxed in 2007, Schilt could have surprised the boxing world too. For a guy for his weight and height, Valuev boxed very solid. But when it comes to physical abilities like speed, agility, power, control over his movement etc., only in power I see him above Semmy, all other attributes go to Schilt. The biggest problem I would see is the stamina, I dont know if Schilt could go 36 minutes, that could be a key factor. But if he could, Valuev would have problems to beat him, since he himself wasnt a big KO puncher.
     
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  5. Lonsdale81

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    Yes Dekkers too he was phenomenal another sad loss.. there's been so many.. Ernesto Hoost , Peter Aerts, Peter Smit, Andy Souwer etc.. I'm glad Rico has brought some more attention to this amazing sport which in turn will shine a light on many of his forebears & fellow countrymen.. The Dutch have a rich history in KB , i have followed the sport right from when K1 was at its peak.. they never got the credit they deserved. My favourite fighter was Alexey Ignashov , he wasn't Dutch but he was brilliant.. wasn't quite disciplined enough (booze etc) but had bags of natural talent:

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  6. Lonsdale81

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    Alexey Ignashov destoying Arthur William's former IBF CW champion:

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  8. Samart'sTeep

    Samart'sTeep Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This was another crossover fight with pretty similar results if you haven't seen it. I won't disparage Vince for it, though. Masato is probably a top five pound-for-pound kickboxer in the history of the sport. Definitely top 10. Not an enviable position to be in.

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