In 5 years people will accept Usyk as the GOAT heavyweight

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By that logic many fighters today would be more skilled than Ali due to progression of the sport
     
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  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also, comparing Ali to Cousy is a hilarious troll job.
     
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  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    As fantastic as he is, it's rather easy to argue he isn't in the top 10 tbh
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn’t mean that they literally wouldn’t enhance it.

    What I’m saying is, not to the point where someone is going to think any higher of him.

    There aren’t the fighters out there.

    Nobody knowledgeable is going to be on the fence regarding his greatness, but will then suddenly be swayed by a possible win over Kabayel.

    That would just be a nice addition.

    Kabayel is deserving of a shot, but he’s hardly done anything.

    Itauma has done nothing yet either.

    Usyk a great HW.

    By any metric.

    If he wins or loses against those guys, nothing will change that.
     
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  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fans who buy into hyped fighters from a certain island:
    Yeah, Usyk is good, but could he beat ITAUMA???

    You guys are so desperate for a future star or champ that you hype up prospects to the stratosphere. How about Itauma beats someone in the top 25 huh? Let's let him take a punch first before we start talking about him enhancing Usyk's legacy.
     
  6. LoveThis

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    Haha i'm not british, but that applies to the americans as well. Jared anderson was so hyped!
    Maybe not as much as itauma, but from the eye test itauma is like a hundred times more promising. And in general he is one of the most promising prospects at that age in heavyweight probably of this century.

    No other heavyweight did close to what itauma did with franklin for example. The footwork and physical capabilities are amazing to see for a guy this size.

    Not that that means he will succeed in the end. It's weird he fights so infrequently.
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Have you not been on here long Aj is just a bodybuilder Fury is just a big stiff idiot
     
  8. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on 100%. He should have retired after Fury II or Dubois II. Nothing else is going to enhance his legacy outside of a tad bit of depth.

    He beats Kabayel, then he beats a 'one-dimensional plodder' who only beat other flawed fighters
    He beats Itauma, then he beats a green untried prospect who was packing glass or whatever.

    I just think right now he needs something better to 'sign off' on that the Rico encounter, too much of a waft on that one.
     
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Americans don't come close to the hysteria generated on that island. They made a documentary about David Price when he was a prospect for ****s sake. They are the UNDISPUTED hype hounds of the world, and this is why we see "upset" after "upset" from those fighters. This is why Joshua fans are STILL reeling from the fallout of him not panning out.

    Tell me Jermaine Franklin's best win? No one is saying Itauma doesn't have promise, but you have to PROVE your worth in the ring first.
     
  10. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. There are people on here that don't think he is a Top 10 HW. They say he needs more depth (and I agree). Title defenses against 2 undefeated contenders ranked in the top 6 will do that. Kabayel has a good win over Zhang who took out Wilder faster than anybody else (including Fury) and has a win over Sanchez who is now the IBF mandatory challenger. And if Itauma can secure a shot and Usyk beats him and Moses goes on to win a title that will substantially boost Usyk's legacy. The top 10 is extremely crowded and Usyk had a late start with his prolonged amateur career and his solid CW career. He needs these wins to secure a place unanimously in the top 10 for anyone to think he could also be considered the GOAT.
     
  11. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When Kabayels 4th best opponent is Chisora he hasn't beaten anyone.
    When Usyks 4th best opponent is Chisora he's the GOAT.

    When Kabyels 27-0 at 33 it's a shame how inactive he's been.
    When Usyks 25-0 at 39 he's got nothing left to prove his storied resume speaks for itself.
     
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