Braddock Defends Against Schmeling Before Louis

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Who Wins?

  1. Braddock Decision

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  2. Braddock by Stoppage

    2.8%
  3. Schmeling Decision

    69.4%
  4. Schmeling by Stoppage

    16.7%
  5. Draw

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most likely outcome. Braddock is tailor made for Schemling. A wild swinging arm puncher, there to be hit against a counter punching great that had a great right hand.
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Thanks. I did not know this.
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing should be boxing. It’s the media that adds politics to it or the fighters. In the ring it’s a sport. Glad Louis got his shot because of that weird instance he may never have gotten one.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    OK, so we are assuming that Schmeling beats Braddock to reclaim the title, then retires and sails off into the sunset.

    That is is going to leave Braddock and Louis as the #1 and #2 contender at least initially.

    Louis obviously isn't going to give up, but what does Braddock do?

    Does he retire, or does he try to get the title back, or at least cash out against Louis?

    In the real timeline he became the #2 contender after beating Tommy Farr, so he likely could hold onto his ranking long enough to be the other man in the ring if he wants it.

    Putting all this together, it probably ends up being Braddock Louis for the title anyway, it's just that in this timeline it it for the vacant title.

    The other would card in all this is Tommy Farr.

    After Braddock refused to defend his title against Schmeling, there was talk of Schmeling Farr being held for the vacant title.

    This suggests to me that if Braddock does retire after losing to Schmeling, we might well be looking at Louis Farr for the vacant title.

    It is coming back to Louis one way or another, but there would always have been that lingering question.

    Could he ever have beaten Schmeling?
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I would favor Schmeling to win a decision or late stoppage as I feel his skill set was superior to Jim Braddock’s. But Braddock’s winning streak up to winning the title was to be taken seriously and therefore he should be given a live chance
     
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  6. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

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    Interesting take. Kind of like the the disputed decision he lost title to Sharkey on. That was the famous ‘we wuz robbed’ fight. I sat thru that and scored it and Schmeling definitely won and looked really good doing it. It’s hard to understand how that same guy could have lost so badly to Baer. Given Braddock showing vs Louis I think he d be very tough for Schmeling. Again thinking Schmeling was trounced by Baer while Braddock outboxed Baer. I think Braddock wins a hard fought close decision.
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn’t they try to make Braddock vs Schmeling as an eliminator for a shot at Baer and Max refused?
     
  8. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Then again that lingering question could have been temporary. Max might have returned to the United States, eventually, for a big payday against Joe, lifting the cloud over Louis.

    And, in that case, the lingering question would become WHEN?
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hilarious!

    Braddock was a tough SOB for sure. But his skills and athleticism were down in the bottom of the division's history of elites.
     
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  10. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    skinny little 190 pounders
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Eh, Braddock was actually kinda big, 6-3 according to some tales of the tape. And he fought north of 210 at times. He certainly had the frame to add muscle.
     
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  12. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Braddock's record weighing over 185 is 3-1 against Louis, Lewis, Max Baer and Farr. He was an unprecedented combination of size, skill and power at the HW division. Tunney

    How is a 6'2 guy who started his career 23-0 at LHW the least skilled? Moorer started 22-0 and is often cited as most skilled. Braddock fought Loughran, Lewis, Farr, Gainer, Schaaf, Billy Jones and Shucco. Sure he lost most of these fights but these are are all some of the best HW or HW adjacent fighters ever.