Vitali Klitschko vs. Ike Ibeabuchi 1999

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Who wins?

  1. Ike Ibeabuchi

    19 vote(s)
    38.8%
  2. Vitali Klitschko

    30 vote(s)
    61.2%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ike couldn’t even get past Kirk Johnson in the gym.
     
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  2. Claude

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    Okay?
     
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    That would indicate that he’d be in deep water against Vitali. Ike never beat a full sized heavyweight boxer mover with any talent.

    Vitali came out of retirement to totally outclass Peter and beat Chisora while forty and fighting with a bad shoulder. Ike was a similar fighter who was only a little bit better than them (gasp).
     
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    Both overrated by Ike is way overrated. He was a very promising and dangerous contender but Vitali beats him
     
  5. Claude

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    Yeah, but Vitali never beat a talented heavyweight prospect.
    I reckon both of them would get soundly outboxed by Chris Byrd and knocked out by David Tua.
     
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    In '99, Ibeabuchi would have been the clear betting favorite, in my opinion. But backing him would still have been a bit of a punt, despite his Tua and Byrd wins.

    It's a 50/50 bout for mine. So, unless the odds swung heavily in Vitali's favor for some reason, I'd not be betting on the outcome.

    Too close to call (unless there's a very attractive price on Ike.)
     
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    Solis was, in fact, talented and a prospect. I could name others. Beating a champion is better than beating a prospect anyway.

    Tua struggled with guys like Jeff Wooden and Oquendo. Byrd was far from dominant when he got a belt. Your memory is selective.
     
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    Nowhere as talented as Ike. Besides, he blew out his knee from a pre-existing injury in the first round, not much of a fight.
    not a paper champion.
    Styles make fights. Those two were trying to keep their distance from Tua. Sam and Derek will come at him. Unless you seriously think either of them has a better chin or more power than David, the outcome is pretty obvious.
    I agree, it’s unfortunate that these two are far from the type of fighters that would trouble him.
     
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    Byrd got blasted out by Ike and never fought a guy like Ike, Chisora, or Peter again.
     
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    Vitali UD.
     
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    Both are overrated in my opinion, but Ike more so. We never saw Ike against a good tall fighter. I think Vits beats him my decision in a fight Ibeabuchi shows his frustration and loses points for fouling. Just a guess on my part.
     
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    A guy like Ike, no. He fought And beat a guy much better than Peter or Chisora, his name is David tua.
     
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    Tua was a midget who went down on points to everyone. Peter from the second Toney fight would jab him to death.

    And fwiw I thought Tua deserved the decision over Ike.
     
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    Tua would powerbox Peter and knock him out cmon now
     
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    He really wouldn’t. Peter’s sloppy jab and physicality would be more than enough. Just look at their fights with Maskaev.

    Peter was levels stronger and more durable than a guy like Izon.