Could Marvin Hagler clear Murderers Row undefeated

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hagler fights each man as a title defense at 160

    Bert Lytell
    Aaron Wade
    Jack Chase
    Eddie Booker
    Lloyd Marshall
    Herbert "Cocoa Kid" Lewis Hardwick
    Holman Williams
    Charley Burley
     
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    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I think that it would be tough for anybody to clear this group undefeated. The Marvelous one could certainly beat them all and would probably beat them all more than they would beat him, but if he were to fight them consecutively, I can definitely see a loss or two along the way. Burley, of course, would be very tough to beat.
     
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    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    No he wouldn't 2-3 losses at a minimum, Marvin was no genius in there.
     
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    No! And nor would Monzon,Robinson,or Greb! imo.
     
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    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably not. He’d likely pick up wins and he’d pick up losses if he fought them all in his career.
     
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    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    I think Marshall & Chase might be the hardest though, who knows. Williams might outpoint him, but he wouldn't likely slow Hagler down too much, again hard to say, But Marshall may be the best of the bunch.
     
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    Lloyd Marshall no. Marshall's a LHW champion so he's kinda not really in the group though. He gets lumped in with them but when I think of Murderers Row I think MW's. Not a guy who beat Tommy Farr and Curtis Sheppard.

    While Hagler would have an outside shot of running the table it's like winning a bunch of coin tosses. It can happen but it probably won't.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Absolutely not in the real world. It's impossible. It's not the names alone, it's the schedule. If you're imagining him fighting twice a year with full camps in his prime - actually, yes, if his luck holds, because they are coming in injured, beaten up, overworked. But in the real world, where he's fighting 13 times a year, it's not even guaranteed that he would be the best of them, though I'd probably bet on him.
     
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    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    There is no way, especially if he was fighting them like they fought one another- fighting every week or 10 days.
     
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Absolutely no chance. No man or near equal size can do it. It's impossible. The styles are too varied and the ability is too high.
     
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    It’s not impossible but that’s one hell of a tall order to ask
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Could RJJ do it at 160
     
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    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Marshall had many fights at middleweight
     
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    Sensible breakdown.
     
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    In a nutshell.
     
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