Bernard Hopkins Vs Archie Moore -lght heavy?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not so much a question of could Hopkins defeat Moore (i don't think so) but does Bernard go the distance?
    Or does Moore's legendary punching power get the drop on Bhop?
     
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    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bernard is pretty cagey, so, he might last the distance. But, it is far from a certainty.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    I'd back him to go the distance. He's an extremely canny fighter. We can utilizer peak Hopkins because after rehydrating he was around 170 pounds. We can use Hopkins from around 1998-2002 and know that without drying out he's basically a light heavyweight anyway.
     
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    Would be an interesting chess match for a few rounds. I’d pick Archie for the KO
     
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    BHOP is my fav ATG middleweight and he was a good lightheavy, but Moore is a bit too much, I like Archie by UD.
     
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  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    41 vs 41 I’d pick Moore.

    Prime Moore beats the best version of LHW Hopkins decisively.
     
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  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    How many times has Bernard Hopkins been knocked out? Once in the last fight. And how many times has he been on pathos? Don't forget B-hop became LHW at 41.5 years old.
    My guess is that prime B-hop would beat the old mongoose on points.
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Hopkins was a light heavyweight by Moores standards well before moving up in weight. He was rehydrating to around 170 while campaining at 160. His same day weigh in during that time would have been around 175 or damn close.

    @Greg Price99 do you reckon i am wrong? You are a high level sensible poster and i am happy to live or die your advice.
     
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    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    I evaluated Hopkins with rehydration and Moore without rehydration; my mistake.
    with such an unfair situation I thought B-hop would win on points.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Well no. Hopkins has no unfair advantage or situation. His rehydration or lack of need for that is simply putting him on Moores level of size. Many will think he is disadvantaged size wise but he simply isn't. The problem is Moore is one of the great H2H fighters in history at his best and maybe a top 2 H2H 175'er. He was also extremely effective against foes weighing well over 175.
     
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  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since I personally don't consider Hopkins a top ten ATG at any weight class
    (Maybe he is at super middleweight) it's fairly easy for me to pick Moore at any
    weight limit.
     
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  12. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I make you about right, JT. HBO's unofficial fight night weigh ins had Hopkins 166lbs vs Echol, 168lbs for Taylor 1 and 169lbs for Taylor 2 - https://basementgymboxing.blogspot....s-weight-with.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com&m=1 - note how sharply his fight night weights increased after moving to LHW. It's as if he allowed his 6ft 1ins frame to fill out after years of keeping his weight reasonably close to the MW limit (by modern standards).
     
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    Thanks Greg, nice little list. I think he was as high as 172 in one middleweight bout but can't find it. The increase in his weights after finally letting himself go a bit are eye opening. Little wonder he had gotten strung out at 160. Some have copped absolute hidings when they tried to stay in a division too long.
     
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