At What Age Does Ali Start Losing To Michael Moorer?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Prime Muhammad Ali is naturally picked to beat Moorer , but as Ali ages the match up becomes more competitive.
    At what point does the balance tip?

    Is Ali still the favourite at 33,35 or does Moorer s southpaw stance , power and work rate become too much?
     
    Fergy, Jul 26, 2026 at 9:37 AM
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Probably 76. So yes, 34.
     
    dmt, Jul 26, 2026 at 9:39 AM
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fight iteration of Ali that Moorer beats is Las Vegas Hilton Ali.
     
    ThatOne, Jul 26, 2026 at 9:43 AM
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  4. Fergy

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    What about the Ali of the Spinks rematch?
    And Moorer isn't letting himself get zoned out like Leon?
     
    Fergy, Jul 26, 2026 at 9:52 AM
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    After Manila. I understand that you also mean fair judges.
     
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  6. Fergy

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    Hopefully :)
     
    Fergy, Jul 26, 2026 at 10:31 AM
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  7. ThatOne

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    Moorer was a much better fighter than Leon, but at that point in his career Leon might have been the more difficult opponent.
     
    ThatOne, Jul 26, 2026 at 10:35 AM
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  8. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Post-Thrilla in Manila.
     
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  9. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    Well I would imagine the question is what age Ali starts winning. I'm fairly confident that Moorer sweeps through Ali ages 1 through 17.
     
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Jul 26, 2026 at 11:13 AM
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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  11. mr. magoo

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    Probably around 1975-76 at age 33-34. While Moorer’s chin wasn’t the greatest, I don’t think Ali had the power to capitalize on that weakness. Couple the issue with Michael having fast hands and a southpaw stance and it would have made him a problematic opponent for an aging Ali
     
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  12. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1977, he could no longer stave off this level of opponent. Better Moorer than David Tua
     
    Mark Dunham, Jul 26, 2026 at 1:53 PM
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  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I would favour Moorer over post Manilla Ali too.

    That being said, Ali was capable of coming up with spectacular punches. The booming right hand he landed on Lyle could also have landed on Moorer and IMO would be just as devestating. Lyle was arguably more durable than Moorer and Moorer, like all southpaws, was open to the right hand.
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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  15. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Moorer's odds versus Ali:

    -1975 Post Manila: 50% - 60% chance.

    -1977: 75% - 80%.

    -1978: 100% Moorer wins. No way Ali beats Moorer in a fair fight.
     
    Kid Bacon, Jul 26, 2026 at 4:00 PM
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