Apart From A Few Exceptions No Heavies Pre 1960 Beat Todays Men

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  1. mcvey

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    Galento was stopped by both the Baer brothers.
    Lost to179lbs Al Delaney.
    Beaten twice by Godoy.
    Drew with180lbs Eddie Mader 28-25--6.
    Drew with181lbs Don Potrie 43-20-2.
    Was stopped by 36-21-5 Marty Gallagher.
    Lost to 38-19-3 Bob Tow.
    Was beaten up and stopped by168lbs Al Gainer .
     
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  2. Mike Cannon

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    Hi Buddy.
    For me he was one of the most innetp and clumsy fighters I have ever seen, devoid of any skill whatsoever, I think he would struggle to win any fights against modern fighters, but if that is your opinion then you're welcome to air it .
    stay safe .
    Mike.
     
  3. Walcott

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    I think Floyd Patterson could cause an upset somewhere perhaps against a chinny HW.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Galento was cheated out of the decision
     
  5. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I could also see Max Baer landing a big overhand right and knocking out a few modern era HW's. He was by no means a small man and packed a punch.
     
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  6. Andre2000

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    Interestingly, some of the bigger fighters of bygone eras might actually do better against more like sized opposition.

    Back in the day, many of the bigger men were kept in check by relatively smaller but far better skilled fighters.

    Kinda sorta what Usyk has managed against today’s SHW behemoths, blowing the theory that bigger is better.

    No question that going into fights against the likes of AJ and Fury, many interpreted Usyk’s relatively smaller size to be a defining disadvantage - ultimately, his size proved itself to comprise his net advantage in no small way - pun intended.
     
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  7. HistoryZero26

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    The only period the "apart from a few exceptions no heavies pre 1960s beat today's men" applies to is the 70s. And only the top 6 guys.

    People got to stop pretending Galento was one of the best HW's of his era and using him as a proxy for his era when the best fighters of his era he fought beat the **** out of him. It's like using Andy Ruiz as a proxy for 2020's HW's. Galento won his biggest fight by trying to gogue out his opponents eyes.
     
  8. HistoryZero26

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    Al Gainer is one of the greatest LHW's who've ever lived.
     
  9. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Talking of size, I saw a few minutes of the Fury fight the other day, and Adam Smith amongst others were heaping praise on him about what good shape he was in !! I thought he looked fatter than ever, they were sucking up to their paymasters as usual, not sure how old you are, but Nigel Benn got a slot on the tele back in the day, commenting on live boxing, he didn't last long, he was far to honest.
    stay safe Andre, chat soon.
    Mike.
     
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  10. Andre2000

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    Lol. Perhaps they were taking the concept of and aversion to body shaming a bit too far.

    Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but when I saw Fury in his most recent ring outing, I beholding a very fat man, no correspondence entered into. lol.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He's trolling.
     
  12. Terror

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    As eras evolve, different things become valuable. Many older fighters appear tougher to me, and more seasoned. Techniques get lost which can become valuable again. Heavyweight is such a different ball game, but even then, I think many of them could have trained up to size or learned the game. If it's a one-night vacuum type situation, I even still like Jack Johnson to give people trouble as well as the aforementioned Louis, Dempsey, Harry Wills, a fully enhanced Marciano would be a nightmare to deal with. I think there were other fighters who could have competed today. Generally speaking, though, I agree with your point.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Why not, lesser big men can be beaten by smaller guys,it's when the big guy is able to both box and punch,that problems arise for the 180/190pounders,imo.
     
  14. mcvey

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    That may well be ,but when he fought Galento he was a supermiddleweight!
    "Al Gainer, 168 1/2, New Haven, Conn., spotted Tony Galento, 220, Newark, New Jersey, 51 1/2 pounds and then scored a TKO in the 4th round of the final fight on the card. Galento, hammered and battered, suffered a bad cut over his right eye and was staggering about helplessly when the referee stopped the slaughter." -Associated Press
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Max was smaller than Usyk.
    He had real power and a great chin,but his ticker ebbed and flowed.
    He froze against Louis,what would his reaction be when he came to ring center with the appreciably bigger Joshua or Dubois?
    Would he turn Tiger as he did against Schmeling,or would he close up shop and meekly surrender?
     
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