Did Ali and Holmes have True Granite Chins

This is where we differ, I guess. And I'm definitely not a Tyson fan. But Tyson took good punches by Tubbs, Tucker and Thomas without hardly batting an eye, and he stood up to bombs from Douglas and Lewis before eventually succumbing.

 

I wasn't sure Tubbs landed a punch, let alone a good one.

 

I rewatched the fight a day or so ago. Tubbs landed a couple of good punches, but they had no affect on Tyson. Tyson was very content to take a punch to land one of his own, and rightly so.

 

Oliver McCall had the best chin ever in my eyes. He couldn't be dropped.

 

This guy is related to Desiree Washington or something. He has an irrational hatred towards him.

 

They both had very good chins, though not at the very top.

 

Well, he fought and took some decent shots from Louis. He took big shots from Walcott, Charles, Moore, and Layne. It's hard to tell if a big shot was landed on him because they look the same and very few seem to bother him.

 

Hey, Foreman was floored by Young. Compared to him Cooper and Snipes were effing Ivan Drago. Want to think things over?

 

Every fighter who has ever boxed has taken some good shots. Hearns took many good shots before going down. Again fact is Tyson never finished a fight when taking serious punishment. And don't give me Rudduck or Tucker. Tyson dominated thoese fights and didn't take nearly as much punishment as even Hearns took against Leonard 2. Tyson was a fighter that you knew if he got hit alot he was going down period. And don't give me it took more then one punch because you can say that for almost any fighter. I would rate Frazier over Tyson in chin department.

 

Here is a good way to settle this. Some on here think Tyson had a great chin. Tyson was knocked out 5 times in 56 fights 3 times by the age of 35. So if this doesn't take him way out of the great chin discussion then you should be able to name some other fighters with great chins who were knocked out 5 times. Or other fighters with great chins who were koed twice by the age of 30 or 3 times by the age of 35 when he was still considered a very good fighter. I would like to see the list.

And don't give me the old he stood up to Douglas for 10 rounds before getting koed because every fighter who was ever champ can claim things like that. hearns stood up to Leonard for 13 rounds in the first fight and 12 in the 2nd and we all know he didn't have a great chin. Fraizer fought 41 rounds vs Ali taken more punishment then Tyson ever took and I don't see anyone claiming Frazier had a great chin

Either i see a pretty good list here or just like I said Tyson's chin is overrated on this board. Abnd yes I can't stand Tyson and would question anyone who didn't dislike him. But it doesn't mean I am blind to his ability. I would pick him to beat the great majority of champs head to head and the only 2 I would put alot of money on beating a peak Tyson are Ali and Lewis. I don't let biases cloud my judgement when talking about sports. I loathe Leonard but I think he was the 3rd best fighter I saw in the last 40 years behind Ali and Duran.

 

I agree with the majority of this post.

 

Exatly. Just like I said a better case can be made that Tyson had a weak chin then Tyson had a great chin.

 

I think Tyson lacked both in recuperative power and mental strengh, and therefore was unable to turn a bad situation around. But for taking a single, very hard, shot I think he was a good as anyone else.

Hearns wobbled every time Leonard really tagged him in their two fights. Tyson wasn't like that. I can't see him being KO'd when well ahead.

I agree with you that Frazier's chin is underrated. Anyone taking the punches he took from Foreman would come to the same end.

 

Recuperative powers are part of having a good chin.Weether you are knocked down or can't recover they are both the signs of a weak chin.

 

Nobody polarizes the fans like Tyson